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holy balls. math is literally like the one thing that applies to everything. mathematics degrees are some of the best/most versatile, and obviously even moreo with masters/phd.
It's not vocational school about how to weld, or sew, fix an combustion motor.
It's academic school about HOW TO LEARN, even weird, HARD, apparently useless stuff. The weirder, harder, more challenging it is, the better. Mastering it gives one confidence in one's intellectual capabilities, intelligence, when learning anything later on the job.
The problem I see here is that USA's stupid "one size fits all", the myth that "everybody must have equal ACADEMIC education to be a genius billionaire", rather than Euro style tracking onto academic or vocational paths. a vocational path wouldn't include Al Jabr
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Com..._and_Balancing
Last edited by boutons_deux; 11-24-2013 at 10:47 AM.
holy balls. math is literally like the one thing that applies to everything. mathematics degrees are some of the best/most versatile, and obviously even moreo with masters/phd.
It is possible to prepare kids better by requiring fewer credits. This way longer periods of time could be spent on tougher material. Many kids can't handle 5-6 academic classes in one day, especially freshman. Also with the number of credits required now, the public school kids get about 48 min. per class vs. one hour. That's 12 minute of class time everyday.
Also reduce class size. Teachers could remediate and actually assess work properly. An English teacher has 180 students and is expected to have the students write 2 papers every week and grade them all with great care asking for corrections that are then regraded? And it takes 10-20 minutes per paper? Good luck...
This State is so removed from their unfunded mandates it's ridiculous. A huge portion of funds go to testing companies. It's a travesty and much of it is fixable. Another example of government trying to fix a problem and exacerbating the problem. They want accountability (testing), but then drastically reduced actual teaching.
"Another example of government trying to fix a problem"
so who else would, could fix taxpayer-funded public schools? corporations running for-profit schools?
The subject is not as important as the process. Learning to problem solve through a variety of personal algorithms allows individuals to become general problems solvers. Some people have trouble making to do lists that require some sort of logistics and ability to rate the importance of multiple tasks. We call this work, and MANY people do this. Math indirectly aides with this type of reasoning. So take the kids as far as they can go individually.
Solutions are not the private reserve of Government.
As has been illustrated on more than one occasion, solution sets are not universal nor should they be. That has historically been the methodological MO of Govt solutions because that's the approach best suited to centralized power structures.
Literally anyone can solve their problems locally... and many schools do. Transferring that success to another, far removed district is where that approach breaks down.
Last edited by TeyshaBlue; 11-24-2013 at 11:28 AM.
Exactly. Advanced Math is only a tool to teach problem solving and logic.
we should have more for profit schools as the solution.
Some work some don't.
which for profit schools work? Devry?
You realize that not all for profit schools are post secondary, right?
Education, for the future!
Lots of emoticons no data. Good job. Now go get your shine box.
Boutons.
Look at how much money this State allocates to education. The lottery, for public schools, pssh, it goes to general funds. Do you even know how schools are funded in this State? How much per month do YOU pay directly to the school district in your property area?
Have you ever looked at your property taxes?
Tell me me how much money the state allocates per pupil vs. the individual property holder. You jump to a conclusion based on horrible assumptions that you don't think fit your party line when this is EXACTLY what your party points out (what I have mentioned above) .
So apologize and smash a pie in your face.
More emoticons, less logic. Yeah, this is a quality approach.
lol angry.
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http://www.airforcetimes.com/article...U03/307310029/
And since you seem confused and have retreated to your tautological fortress, Im not saying this is a universal cure all..... only that some work, some don't.
*cue the emoticons sans data*
so how would anybody but govt solve govt schools?
wealthy public school districts, a huge property tax or other base, do wonderfully in most cases. poor districts, esp rural and blighted urban districts, do much worse.
teachers are undertrained, underqualified, underpaid, disrespected, deningrated by the VRWC/Repugs as a means to bust their unions, and under pressure to teach to the test.
From the article you posted:
These for-profits posted student-loan default rates about 6.5 percentage points higher than those of public schools.
Not undertrained and under qualified in the richer school districts on the whole. In this city anyway.
If for profit schools can do the job then fine. I am always skeptical when profit is the goal.
In some public school districts the teachers put themselves ahead of the students. So is there a difference? Of course the teachers often teach in war zones. There are some very good public magnate schools in this city as well as pure public schools. But again, the public schools with students and parents that care attract good teachers.
This was the whole idea of hiring college kids into programs to go into poor areas (to pay for their tuition). The results are mixed. Many leave, up to 2/3 after 2 years. It's a rude awakening.
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