Spurs and Heat Finals rematch. Spurs in 5.
18-1 for west in last 19 games...
If the Eastern Conference hoped to gain any credibility against the mighty Western Conference on Saturday night, it flew out the window about a minute into the second quarter in San Antonio.One of the many disappointing teams in the East, the Cleveland Cavaliers had no chance keeping up with the Spurs, falling behind 37-23 with 10:18 to go in the first half. By the time the merciful halftime buzzer sounded, San Antonio had pasted the Cavs with a 35-11 period for a 65-32 lead.
Good night.
The West’s superiority over its Eastern brethren in the opening month of the season is astounding: 42-17. In the last eight days alone the West’s record stands at 18-1. A hearty congratulations goes out to the Washington Wizards for its 104-100 home win over the Minnesota Timberwolves last Tuesday. It’s the Wizards’ lone win against the West in four tries.
Before then, the last East victories came on Nov. 15 on what proved to be a banner night: Miami squeaked past Dallas, Brooklyn beat Phoenix on Joe Johnson’s buzzer-beater and Detroit motored past Sacramento. So nearly one-fifth of the East’s win total against the West came on one night.
The East’s only early West conquerors are their top two teams. The Pacers and Heat are both 2-0. Indiana beat New Orleans by five and thumped the slow-starting Grizzlies. Miami got by Dallas by six and the Clippers by five.
The Bobcats (0-3), Knicks (0-3) and Bucks (0-3) are all winless against the West and only the Raptors (2-2) and Magic (2-2) can boast .500 records. No East team can claim more than two wins against the West and 10 of the 15 can’t even claim that. Of course the East’s biggest — and most unexpected culprits — are New York’s expensive clunkers. The Knicks and Nets are both 3-9 overall and a combined 2-7 against the West.
Today’s Eastern Conference hopes: Bulls at Clippers (3:30 p.m. ET, League Pass) and Suns at Magic (6 p.m. ET, NBA TV).
More East-West perspective:
*The West has 11 teams with six or fewer losses; the East has 12 teams with six or more losses.
* The West has nine teams with seven or more wins; the East has four.
* The West has 12 teams that are .500 or better; The East has four, plus an entire division (the Atlantic) under .500
* The West’s top three teams — Spurs (5-0), Trail Blazers (6-0) and Thunder (3-0) — are a combined 14-0 against the East (The Warriors, Nuggets and Lakers are a combined 6-0)
* The West’s bottom seven teams are 14-11 against the East and that includes Utah’s 0-4 mark.
* The only West teams with a losing record against the East are the Clippers (1-2), Kings (1-2) and Jazz (0-4)
* The Mavericks are 5-1 against the East and 9-5 overall
* The Timberwolves are 5-2 against the East and 8-7 overall.
* The 76ers are 6-9 overall and 1-4 against the West
* The Pistons are 4-8 overall and 1-5 against the West
Backpedaling per par. Now you're reinforcing what Daslicer (the guy you quoted in your original post) said.
The tanking this year is much more widespread than it had been previously, and that's an understatement at that. What teams dismantled their roster in the preseason for the "so tantalizing and appealing" 2011 draft class?
Nice find Splitman4evah
Backpedaling? Hardly. But indeed clarifying.
Teams are always needing to retool and rebuild. Sometimes it's a complete demolition, other times it's a more deliberate and calculated move. But one of the strongest ways for teams to (theoretically) improve is through the draft. Now obviously, some draft classes are stronger than others, and that drives interest (kind of like the stock market). But there are always teams salivating at the possibilities and thinking they can beat the oddds. And so tanking happens a lot. This definitely becomes more profound as the season wears on (eg, once you've been eliminated from contention). But it isn't limited to that. The East was supposed to have a bunch of super teams this year (Miami, Indiana, New York, Brooklyn, Chicago) and that hasn't really materialized. Factor in a strong draft and I could see more tanking than is normal. Some Eastern teams didn't feel that they had a chance. But those teams not panning out actually created an opportunity for teams like the Bobcats, the perennial bottom-dwellers, to potentially claim a playoff birth for the 2nd time in franchise history. So it can go both ways. Regardless, GM's that are trying to save their jobs and extend their longevity, usually look to the draft as the most obvious winning angle. That and big-name free agent signings. But sometimes you just need a spare year to get some of those nasty contracts off your books before you can make that run. Might as well tank an cash in at the draft as well. And so putting a year in the trash with the hope of upgrading happens a lot.
Anyways, I refuse to get into juvenile arguments with people like you. I wasted enough of my own time already as it is. Besides, you proved your quality with your first post. So say whatever you want. I don't really care. You win the internet.
The east has always been weak but this year takes the cake. I think coupled with the many high expectations, so far the east has just been an absolute bust and it sucks that when the playoffs roll around (unless some teams turn it on) there are going to be a couple teams not making the playoffs that should and a bunch of teams that shouldn't make it will be getting swept in the first round. There's a good chance you can consider the first round a bye for the eastern conference
You wrote a whole lot without saying a whole lot. If you're looking to save time, I suggest not writing out 6+ sentences of garbage.
Tbh, there's no argument here. (and there never was) In reality, in the past few years there have not been multiple teams literally trading off all the good talent they have in order to lose games. The 2011 draft was lauded as the worst one since the Mike Miller "Rookie of the Year" draft. (And this was around the time of the draft itself, not in hindsight)
It doesn't take Einstein to tell us that there are gonna be more teams tanking when you've got Wiggins/Parker/Randle/Smart/+ all of Kentucky's one and dones vs when you have Kyrie Irving and Derrick Williams.
The East may get even worse...
According to Espn
Derrick Rose may have an invasive surgery that would keep him out to at least March or possibly June. It would essentially wipe out a 2nd straight season. The Bulls are 6-6. If they opt to go that route. They wind up tanking and retooling for next season. They could amnesty Boozer, trade Deng at the deadline (or resign, or let walk) And they have a pick swap this season. If the Bobcats pick is 11th or lower they can swap their pick if its worse.
As of today, the east has three teams with a record greater than .500 ans the west has two teams with a record below .500
Obviously some of this will sort itself out as the season plays on. We're only talking about 12 or 13 games per team now. A small sample size when laid against an 82 game season. But so far the parity in the league is disastrous.
was kinda hoping rose would come on strong and the nets would've worked out this season. i just want a little bit tougher road for mia
Sadly I don't think MIA will even have to sweat until the Pacers in the conference finals. While they would never do it, they could probably get away with resting D-wade in a few games in the first two rounds so he's healthy and fresh for the East Finals and NBA Finals. The East is that weak below the top 2 teams.
Meanwhile, there will be a few half way decent teams not even make the playoffs in the west, as well as some damn good teams that will go out in the first round.
It kind of reminds me of the 80's only in reverse from a conference perspective where the Lakers really had no worthy opponents in the west playoffs (except Houston every once in a while) while the 76ers, Celtics, Pistons, and young Bulls all beat the out of each other every year.
Last edited by BillMc; 11-25-2013 at 09:13 AM.
With Rondo and D.Rose out, this just sad....
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