Manu sacrificed so much ....yet Kobe Bean Bryant

[Brazil]

Of course it's a business move, spurs did also a business move with Manu contract but the spurs way

[Brazil]

M

[Marrow]

business move or not...there is no better business than winning

[hater]

Of course it's a business move, spurs did also a business move with Manu contract but the spurs way

truth firebombing

[baseline bum]

$48.5 million over two years for a cripple who runs HOF bigmen out of town

[Cklbmk]

I think its a stretch to call Dwight HoF already

[Obstructed_View]

I think its a stretch to call Dwight HoF already

Not even remotely a stretch. If he dropped dead tomorrow, he'd almost certainly get in.

[exstatic]

$48.5 million over two years for a cripple who runs HOF bigmen out of town

This contract probably runs out the third one in Gasol.

[will_spurs]

Exactly, they were not serious contenders during those years, but they were still very, very good. So the success I'm referring to is the fact that they were able to at least, stay relevant during that time frame, as opposed to falling off of the cliff. People forget how much of an impact he made, just keeping this team afloat, or, at least, somewhat relevant because they seemed to be in the midst of a slow decline during those years.

This is a thread about Manu. Why are you talking about Parker!?

[Boomersgold]

$48.5 million over two years for a cripple who runs HOF bigmen out of town

It's an NBA player's nightmare to play with Kobe. Think about it for a second. Every loss will be blamed on you regardless of how poorly Kobe played. If you play hard in a loss where Kobe shoots 7/28 and has 5 turnovers, it's still your fault the Lakers lost because Kobe still ended up with his 20 points. It's a lose-lose situation because no matter what happens, Kobe'll get a free pass from the media and any blame will be on his teammates.

[Fireball]

I did not even know it was possible to pay a player this much per year ... wow

[will_spurs]

I did not even know it was possible to pay a player this much per year ... wow

His current salary is $30M a year, so he's actually taking a 20% paycut (but is still going to be the best paid player in the NBA).

[Darius McCrary]

Lots of win in this thread from O_V, per usual, tbh

tbh

[TampaDude]

Enjoy a few more years of mediocrity, Laker fans.

[99 Problems]

L.a going from average to basketball 3rd world. Nothing coming out of there for a few yrs, at least end of Duncan era now.

[timmy2003]

Lakers will suck for the next two years

[Fireball]

His current salary is $30M a year, so he's actually taking a 20% paycut (but is still going to be the best paid player in the NBA).

Poor Kobe

[CGD]

I agree with Hater, it's a business move. It has nothing to do with winning games. NBA is first and foremost a business. Kobe gives the team an attraction, and a facade of trying to return to glory. It's either that or pay a couple pseudo stars collectively the same money and get maybe a few more wins, but lose your ass in revenue because anyone in LA who wants to see scrubs can just go watch Sacramento play.

Yes, but it more than that, specifically the lakers just signed a multi-billion dollar cable deal. The NBA wins when the Lakers are generating buzz, and that's that. Old Kobe is better business than a product featuring Nick Young and Gasol.

[therealtruth]

If the Lakers were really loyal they would have kept Shaq.

[kobexxx]

how many rings did kobe have compared to Manu? or even Duncan?

[lefty]

how many rings did kobe have compared to Manu? or even Duncan?

As an alpha male ?


none

[cd021]

with that extension the lakers have effectively boarded up their le window...

So we've officially outlasted both Laker championship teams. Thats pretty amazing.

[BillMc]

As an alpha male ?


none

I'd say Kobe has 2 as the main guy. Revisionist history seems to forget that Shaq was the best player on those first 3 teams. You hear a lot of Laker fans (actually Kobe fan boys) who dismiss or discount Shaq. Shaq was in his prime in those 3 and the best player in basketball. The general media who somehow want to put Kobe ahead of Shaq on the all time list are mistaken.

But Kobe was the best player on the last 2 and should get credit for it. Pau was the difference maker, the final piece, coming to the Lakers, but it was Kobe's team. He was definitely the alpha dog on those les.

[Juggity]

But Kobe was the best player on the last 2 and should get credit for it. Pau was the difference maker, the final piece, coming to the Lakers, but it was Kobe's team. He was definitely the alpha dog on those les.

I'll give him credit for 2009, but not 2010.

6-24 in game 7 of the finals are not FMVP/team leader numbers

[TampaDude]

I'll give him credit for 2009, but not 2010.

6-24 in game 7 of the finals are not FMVP/team leader numbers

Perkins won that game for the Lakers by getting hurt and not being on the court. Even then, Artest bailed out Kobe at the end.