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    Just to answer local questions, here's the Express-News's policy on photojournalism.

    PHOTOJOURNALISM
    Pictures, whether used to depict news events as they actually happen, to illustrate news that has happened or to help explain anything of public interest, are an indispensable means of keeping the public accurately informed. To that end, photojournalists at the San Antonio Express-News subscribe to these tenets:

    1. It is the individual responsibility of every photojournalist to strive for pictures that report truthfully, honestly and objectively. There is a clear difference between news do entary photos and feature portraits and illustrations that are posed or created for a particular story. The same ethical standards that are apply to written stories are applied to news do entary photos, including spot and general news, sports and enterprise feature photos. No photo of a news or live event is to be posed, nor should any attempt be made by the photographer to direct the action.

    2. As journalists, credibility is our greatest asset. In do entary photojournalism, it is wrong to alter the content of a photograph in any way (electronically or in the darkroom) that deceives the public. The guidelines for fair and accurate reporting should be the criteria for judging what may be done electronically to a photograph. Any computer correction of a news photo to enhance its reproduction may use only those techniques that have been commonly accepted in traditional chemical darkrooms, including dodging or burning in selected areas of a photo without changing its content, and correction of technical defects, such as scratches, dust marks and color shifts caused by mixed lighting sources. No photographer, artist, copy editor or technician may change the actual color content of any news photo. News photos may not be flopped to face the other way, they may not be stretched or shrunk to fit a layout, and they should not be cropped to present an image that is not supported by facts, or to create an impression or evoke an emotion that is not genuine. File photos should never be represented as live photos.

    3. It is clear that the emerging electronic technologies provide new challenges to the integrity of photographic images. In light of this, any photo that is created with computer technology or that is manipulated beyond the guidelines above must be labeled as a photo illustration.

    4. In the case of controversial photographs where subject matter includes possible violations of acceptable community standards (such as the inclusion of dead human bodies, grisly crime scenes, genitals, obscene gestures or language), a newsroom consultation group shall discuss the matter. That group should include: the page editor; the photographer, when possible; the director of photography or the photo editor on duty; the top newsroom editor available and the editor of the section in which the photo will appear. The editor of the newspaper shall make the final decision.
    http://www.asne.org/index.cfm?ID=3554
    Last edited by Johnny_Blaze_47; 07-28-2005 at 12:11 PM.

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    It's 11:46...and OU STILL sucks!!!!! jalbre6's Avatar
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    When was the last time you checked out the Miami Herald, or its website? How many of us knew the name of Miami's daily paper before hearing about this? (I thought it was the Sun-Sentinel, FWIW)

    It did its purpose. The front page and story JB47 listed has been on CNN, MSNBC, and HN at least a few times each this morning.

    Blood sells, kids.

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    Thanks JB i was just looking for that.

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    I don't see the point of running that picture. It serves no journalistic purpose.

    Oh, wait. It sells papers.


    b-b-b-b-b-b-but....freedom of the press, right? We have a right to see it.

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    I never said they should be censored. I think we do have a right to see it. That doesn't mean they should have run it.

    I have a right to go skipping down the street in daisy dukes and a halter top, but I don't think I should.

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    I think it was in very poor taste and totally insensitive for his friends and loved ones....but there always has to be someone who feels en led to all the gory details.



    And that someone might just want to see you in Daisy Duke's, too.

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    I have a right to go skipping down the street in daisy dukes and a halter top.

    Gets dollar bills out of pocket

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    When the cops kill someone, the bodies are often shown on the front of newspapers in all their g(l)ory. So, what's the difference in this case? Is it because he killed himself?

    If the Miami Herald always runs pictures in color and they didn't just run this one in color to be more dramatic, then I don't really have a problem with the picture. But yes, it sucks for the family/friends.

    BaselineBum (I see you in this thread) remember when those bank robbers went on a shooting rampage with machine guns a few years back in LA and the cops shot that one and then (reportedly) let him bleed to death on the street and didn't get him medical attention. That guy's picture was on the front page of the paper for days in a pool of blood.

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    I think it was in very poor taste and totally insensitive for his friends and loved ones....but there always has to be someone who feels en led to all the gory details.
    Totally for discussion here...

    Do you think it would be okay for the four contractors killed in Iraq and hung from bridges shots to be run?

    Uday & Qusay's death photos?

    Etc.

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    Wow, almost similiar to the Bill Dwyer (think that's the name) who blew his brains out in a press conference which lead to Filter writing


    "HEY MAN NICE SHOT!"

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    Almost every major newspaper prints the front page in color, so I don't think doing it in B/W was really an option. I think that might have drawn more attention to it, since it's so unusual.

    I don't really have a personal problem with the picture, but I question the business sense... I think more people would be outraged by the photo than people who are persuaded to go buy a copy to see a little pool of blood.

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    I personally think all photos of this type should be kept off the front page.

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    I don't really have a personal problem with the picture, but I question the business sense... I think more people would be outraged by the photo than people who are persuaded to go buy a copy to see a little pool of blood.
    I agree wholeheartedly.

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    lucky the former comish was a white guy or all would break loose.

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    lucky the former comish was a white guy or all would break loose.
    Huh?


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    It's 11:46...and OU STILL sucks!!!!! jalbre6's Avatar
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    lucky the former comish was a white guy or all would break loose.


    Uhhhh.....


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    man, i didn't realize that was him on the left?

    looks like a white guy laying there...oh well, i guess my theory is , but wait for it just in case.

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    How many of us knew the name of Miami's daily paper before hearing about this?
    I knew.
    and not just becasue I love Dave Barry.

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    I knew too. I read sports stories on their website almost every day.

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    Dr. Pepper Johnny_Blaze_47's Avatar
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    I knew of the paper before this incident. I'm a journalism student. I will admit that I only found out about it very early this morning because of the story on CNN.com.

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    JB - Guru of Nothing was looking for a valid email address for you. You should send him a private message.

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    they still cant show (new) pictures of caskets with flags on them being taken off planes from iraq

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    they still cant show (new) pictures of caskets with flags on them being taken off planes from iraq
    IIRC, they can show pictures. The media just can't get them.

    AFAIK, they are still not allowed to take photos @ Dover AFB. You can get the photos that Dover takes, though. It took about 6-9 months for me to recieve a CD with photos taken by the USAF via FOIA.

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