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    Detractors, including some Republican lawmakers, said allowing students of one gender to use facilities intended for the other could invade the other students' privacy.



    Such fears are overblown, said Carlos Alcala, spokesman for the bill's author, Democratic Assemblyman Tom Ammiano of San Francisco. In general, he said, transgender students are trying to blend in and are not trying to call attention to themselves.

    "They're not interested in going into bathrooms and flaunting their physiology," Alcala said.


    He also noted that the state's largest school district, Los Angeles Unified, has had such a policy for nearly a decade and reported no problems. San Francisco schools also have had a policy similar to the new law, and numerous other districts signed on in support of the legislation.

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    The wack- s are the Puritanical, sex-police Repugs, being authentically Christ-like as usual, not the Dems.
    They are not Christ- like but misguided by their own beliefs.

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    They are not Christ- like but misguided by their own beliefs.
    Who are you to JUDGE who is/isn't Christ-like?

    Christ would be pretty upset if he saw that kind of behavior, tbh.

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    This section of the forum has been very educational. Thing is 95% of the wacky, stupids seem to be tea party and Rep...I know they are not the same thing really. So can someone post some of the Democrat stuff just so I can get some balance...surely the Dems do wacky, off the wall stuff just to show that they can drag the knuckles like Fox news and the Tea Party?
    Sorry to disappoint.

    As a Democrat, I must confess to terminal logical thinking. I cannot give you what you want.

    I value evidence based decision making, and use critical thinking in making any and all policy decisions.

    If the evidence, as fairly and objectively stated doesn't support something, I will not support it.

    That is the choice we face.

    Slobbering insanity or some vague semblance of sanity. Repoublican or Democrat.

    I wish it were otherwise. There are some sane Republicans left, but they seem to be losing their grip on their own party. It is, from the outside, sad to watch.

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    Who are you to JUDGE who is/isn't Christ-like?

    Christ would be pretty upset if he saw that kind of behavior, tbh.
    what kind of behaviour?
    Also do you really care for the opinion of a jewish carpenter who lived over 2000 years ago when it comes to the toileting arrangements of 5 year old children in suburban USA?
    If I recall correctly some of Christs themes were care for those less fortunate than you, heal the sick, pray in private, be modest and turn the other cheek

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    what kind of behaviour?
    Also do you really care for the opinion of a jewish carpenter who lived over 2000 years ago when it comes to the toileting arrangements of 5 year old children in suburban USA?
    If I recall correctly some of Christs themes were care for those less fortunate than you, heal the sick, pray in private, be modest and turn the other cheek
    You missed my point (and you're agreeing with it).

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    Sorry to disappoint.

    As a Democrat, I must confess to terminal logical thinking. I cannot give you what you want.

    I value evidence based decision making, and use critical thinking in making any and all policy decisions.

    If the evidence, as fairly and objectively stated doesn't support something, I will not support it.
    The War on Poverty has been "fought" for 50 years this year. How much evidence do you need to determine it is not working, and, in fact, might be making the problem worse? You want a HIGHER poverty level, MORE income disparity? MORE illegitimate births that don't portend good things in the not so distant future? At what point will a logical, rational Democrat stand up and say, "Hey, you know this brilliant social program we have created appears to have become nothing more than a self-sustaining government monolith - a vast organism that exists to maintain itself in exponential expansion in perpetuity - crushing the productivity and will, systematically, of the entire country - leaving a smaller and smaller cadre of elites at the very top to maintain this illogical status-quo to their own gain?"

    Claiming logical thinking does not make your thinking so.

    In a related subject, I'm thinking the reduction in food-stamp benefit amounts, along with the end of extended unemployment benefits is going to help lead to the single biggest drop in unemployment we have seen in several years. This will be realized by the end of this quarter. Ironically this will add wind to the sails of Obama's lackluster 2nd term, allowing him to gin up support for his latest causes; a rise in the minimum wage AND re-extension of those unemployment benefits...

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    The War on Poverty has been "fought" for 50 years this year. How much evidence do you need to determine it is not working, and, in fact, might be making the problem worse? You want a HIGHER poverty level, MORE income disparity? MORE illegitimate births that don't portend good things in the not so distant future? At what point will a logical, rational Democrat stand up and say, "Hey, you know this brilliant social program we have created appears to have become nothing more than a self-sustaining government monolith - a vast organism that exists to maintain itself in exponential expansion in perpetuity - crushing the productivity and will, systematically, of the entire country - leaving a smaller and smaller cadre of elites at the very top to maintain this illogical status-quo to their own gain?"

    Claiming logical thinking does not make your thinking so.

    In a related subject, I'm thinking the reduction in food-stamp benefit amounts, along with the end of extended unemployment benefits is going to help lead to the single biggest drop in unemployment we have seen in several years. This will be realized by the end of this quarter. Ironically this will add wind to the sails of Obama's lackluster 2nd term, allowing him to gin up support for his latest causes; a rise in the minimum wage AND re-extension of those unemployment benefits...
    "The war on poverty isn't working"

    Talk about meaningless jibber-jabber.

    This is exactly the kind of thing I was talking about, i.e. factless, evidenceless blathering.

    Quantify and qualify. Define your terms, and present some data to support this assertion.

    It is a good place to start if you want to tell me that I am not being logical about anything. Your assertion, your burden of proof.

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    "The war on poverty isn't working"

    Talk about meaningless jibber-jabber.

    This is exactly the kind of thing I was talking about, i.e. factless, evidenceless blathering.

    Quantify and qualify. Define your terms, and present some data to support this assertion.

    It is a good place to start if you want to tell me that I am not being logical about anything. Your assertion, your burden of proof.
    The war on poverty is not working

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    The war on drugs is not working

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    More money doesn't mean better test scores

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    America has a debt problem

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    America has a debt problem
    the bond traders and international bond buyers disagree

    America has, primarily, a jobs problem, and an inequality catastrophe.

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    the bond traders and international bond buyers disagree

    America has, primarily, a jobs problem, and an inequality catastrophe.
    You're right, forgot about the jobs problem. Let's see how that's working out for american youth.


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    Here's a good one showing how good Obama has been for black men


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    Just a coincidence I'm sure


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    The war on drugs is not working
    The war on drugs is a libertarian utopia where the "free market" gets to streamline what deserves prison sentences via the private prison lobby.

    republicans/libertarians complaining about things they start/support

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    The war on poverty is not working
    Everything you need to know about the war on poverty:

    http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...erty/#comments

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    The war on poverty is not working
    in 1960, 23% of 180M people in poverty.

    in 2010 16% of 310M people in poverty.

    If the war on poverty were not working, we'd still have 20%+ now in poverty.

    iow, the War on Poverty has worked to lift, keep about 20M people out of poverty.

    Right-wing/VRWC/1%/ALEC LIE, repeated by stupid ST parrots, exposed, yet again.

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    ... still waiting for all the wackiness, madness of the Dems showing that mythical "balance", aka, false equivalence.

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    in 1960, 23% of 180M people in poverty.

    in 2010 16% of 310M people in poverty.

    If the war on poverty were not working, we'd still have 20%+ now in poverty.

    iow, the War on Poverty has worked to lift, keep about 20M people out of poverty.

    Right-wing/VRWC/1%/ALEC LIE, repeated by stupid ST parrots, exposed, yet again.
    The "War" (all of the govt. programs) began in '64 - by the graph that would make the rate ~19% - the rate now is "over 16%".

    $20 Trillion for under 3%?

    Pretty wacky stuff.

    On a side note, the poverty rate in California (fill in your descriptor for anything left wing here) is 23.8% - highest in the country.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/new-c...esults-2012-11

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    The "War" (all of the govt. programs) began in '64 - by the graph that would make the rate ~19% - the rate now is "over 16%".

    $20 Trillion for under 3%?

    Pretty wacky stuff.

    On a side note, the poverty rate in California (fill in your descriptor for anything left wing here) is 23.8% - highest in the country.

    http://www.businessinsider.com/new-c...esults-2012-11

    your percentages, it's a question of absolute changes in population.

    29% would be in poverty now w/o govt assisatance, vs 16% now. 20M people kept from poverty.

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    your percentages, it's a question of absolute changes in population.

    29% would be in poverty now w/o govt assisatance
    Link?

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    The war on poverty is not working
    While I do think that this is a good attempt to move a bit beyond factless blathering, we need to do some more groundwork before any meaningful data can be had or considered.

    Define the "war on poverty". Until then, it is still meaningless jibber jabber, albeit jibber jabber with graphs.

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