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    So they'd rather pay a player $6-7mill to sit on the bench AND pay the $ for $ lux tax rather than have him play for another team?
    Neither would happen if they didn't re-sign Nazr.

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    A quick analysis for 05-06 :
    Duncan $15.84M
    Parker $8.38M
    Ginobili $7.43M
    Nesterovic $6.72M
    Mohammed $5.5M
    Barry $4.69M
    Bowen $3.37M
    Horry $2.71M or $3M (woai says $9M/3 years : 2.71 it's with 10.5% raise, 3M it's flat)
    Oberto $2.31M
    Udrih $0.91M

    It's make a payroll of $ 57.87-58.16M

    Data from the new CBA :
    - Luxury tax threshold $61.7M
    - minimum roster :13
    - maximum roster : 15
    - Minimum salaries players count $0.72M against the cap whatever the number of years of service

    Spurs have 10 players under contract , they will sign 3-5 players.
    They have 5 PF/C, 2PG and 3 SG/SF.
    Among these 3-5 players the only one who will win more than the minimum is the 4th SG/SF (Devin Brown, Big Dog, Maurice Evans...)
    If Spurs want stay under the tax threshold they could give him :
    - $ 2.10 - 2.39M if spurs roster is 13
    - $ 1.38 - 1.67M if spurs roster is 14
    - The min if spurs roster is 15

    My guess is spurs roster will be 14 (3 PG, 5 SG/SF, 6 PF/C)
    They could give a player a $5M/3 years deal without paying any tax.

    Spurs will receive something like $4M tax revenues with the new redistribution system. Even if Spurs gives the rest of the MLE ($2.69M) to the 4th swingman, Spurs will earn money with the luxury tax ($2.5-3M).

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    A quick analysis for 05-06 :
    Duncan $15.84M
    Parker $8.38M
    Ginobili $7.43M
    Nesterovic $6.72M
    Mohammed $5.5M
    Barry $4.69M
    Bowen $3.37M
    Horry $2.71M or $3M (woai says $9M/3 years : 2.71 it's with 10.5% raise, 3M it's flat)
    Oberto $2.31M
    Udrih $0.91M

    It's make a payroll of $ 57.87-58.16M

    Data from the new CBA :
    - Luxury tax threshold $61.7M
    - minimum roster :13
    - maximum roster : 15
    - Minimum salaries players count $0.72M against the cap whatever the number of years of service

    Spurs have 10 players under contract , they will sign 3-5 players.
    They have 5 PF/C, 2PG and 3 SG/SF.
    Among these 3-5 players the only one who will win more than the minimum is the 4th SG/SF (Devin Brown, Big Dog, Maurice Evans...)
    If Spurs want stay under the tax threshold they could give him :
    - $ 2.10 - 2.39M if spurs roster is 13
    - $ 1.38 - 1.67M if spurs roster is 14
    - The min if spurs roster is 15

    My guess is spurs roster will be 14 (3 PG, 5 SG/SF, 6 PF/C)
    They could give a player a $5M/3 years deal without paying any tax.

    Spurs will receive something like $4M tax revenues with the new redistribution system. Even if Spurs gives the rest of the MLE ($2.69M) to the 4th swingman, Spurs will earn money with the luxury tax ($2.5-3M).
    Let me know if i´m wrong

    With that contracts, with annual increases, the next season the contract are aprox:

    Duncan 17,82
    Parker 9,42
    Manu 8,17
    Rasho 7,4
    Nazr 6,05
    Barry 5,16
    Bowen 3,79
    Horry 3
    Oberto 2,5
    Udrih 1

    Total 64,30

    How much will be the Luxury tax threshold $61.7M or more?

    With only 10 players we have guaranteed contract of 64.35 millions, and we need 3 more players

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    Let me know if i´m wrong

    With that contracts, with annual increases, the next season the contract are aprox:

    Duncan 17,82
    Parker 9,42
    Manu 8,17
    Rasho 7,4
    Nazr 6,05
    Barry 5,16
    Bowen 3,79
    Horry 3
    Oberto 2,5
    Udrih 1

    Total 64,30

    How much will be the Luxury tax threshold $61.7M or more?

    With only 10 players we have guaranteed contract of 64.35 millions, and we need 3 more players
    Nazr has no contract for 06-07.
    So it's 9 players guaranteed for 58 millions.
    Spurs can't have Nazr and Rasho for 06-07 without paying a lot of luxury tax.
    If the Spurs want to resign Nazr they need to trade rasho for expiring contracts.
    In 06-07 the tax threshold will be something like $62M. Usualy, the luxury tax raises 3%/year but in 06-07 this raise will be canceled by the inclusion of charlotte bobcats in the computation of the theshold.

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    Trade rasho+nazr to scrub teams for picks and expire contracts, then we would have to bring in our euro farmed players over

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    Nazr has no contract for 06-07.
    So it's 9 players guaranteed for 58 millions.
    Spurs can't have Nazr and Rasho for 06-07 without paying a lot of luxury tax.
    If the Spurs want to resign Nazr they need to trade rasho for expiring contracts.
    In 06-07 the tax threshold will be something like $62M. Usualy, the luxury tax raises 3%/year but in 06-07 this raise will be canceled by the inclusion of charlotte bobcats in the computation of the theshold.
    Yes but if we want Nazr we can´t offer less than that money

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    Yes but if we want Nazr we can´t offer less than that money
    On the free market, Nazr value next summer will be between 5 and 10 millions/year depending on his 05-06 year. If he continues to play at the same level, he could get 8 millions in 06-07 (45M$/5 years contract).

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    I think both Rasho and Nazr will both leave

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    We need a trade with the Tau: Rasho x Drobnjak and Luis Scola

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    We need a trade with the Tau: Rasho x Drobnjak and Luis Scola

    good one.

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    I didn't realize that the Spurs were on the hook for 57M next year. With that in mind, the writing is officially on the wall...Nazr or Rasho must go. No way Spurs can resign Nazr if Rasho is still on the roster.
    Let's wait till February trade deadline. We need to see on Dec. 7 and Jan 20 who plays Shaq better -- Nazr or Rasho.

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