Thunder: Kevin "MVP" Durant..

[daslicer]

No they are not better without Westbrook. He is needed to offset Brooks' re ed coaching abilities.

Agreed without Westbrook they are basically the 95 spurs which is team filled with a bunch of solid players but not a legit all-star. I don't think they get out of the west without Westbrook because role players are inconsistent during the playoffs and that is why you usually always need another all-star player to win it all.

[DMC]

we also saw how that worked out way back when

I said way back when that they will have to develop and they have. Their ceiling is higher than it was with Westbrook.

[DMC]

Agreed without Westbrook they are basically the 95 spurs which is team filled with a bunch of solid players but not a legit all-star. I don't think they get out of the west without Westbrook because role players are inconsistent during the playoffs and that is why you usually always need another all-star player to win it all.

So Durant isn't a legit all star? lol

With RW in the game, Durant is standing around picking his zits watching RW play hero.

[daslicer]

So Durant isn't a legit all star? lol

With RW in the game, Durant is standing around picking his zits watching RW play hero.

I was implying that outside of Durant they have no legit all-star player when RW is not playing. I'm not sold Reggie Jackson,Lamb,Ibacka and those guys are going to step up every game in the playoffs. The playoffs are tougher and role players can easily be shut down once a team is determined to do it just look at what happened to Green last year after game 5 of the finals. They will need RW when teams figure out how to stop Jackson,Lamb,Ibacka.

[Fabbs]

Durant is a better version of Larry Bird....

7/10

[Leetonidas]

Durant doesn't impact the game the way LeBron does. LeBron can put up huge scoring numbers on insane efficiency too, but he's also a nightly triple double threat, has insane vision and agility, is a ing tank compared to that starved ethiopian looking lanky ass Durant, and he can guard the other team's best player on the perimeter and 1-4 fairly successfully. Durant can't even assert himself over Westbrook, who definitely has the alpha mentality on that OKC team

[DMC]

I was implying that outside of Durant they have no legit all-star player when RW is not playing. I'm not sold Reggie Jackson,Lamb,Ibacka and those guys are going to step up every game in the playoffs. The playoffs are tougher and role players can easily be shut down once a team is determined to do it just look at what happened to Green last year after game 5 of the finals. They will need RW when teams figure out how to stop Jackson,Lamb,Ibacka.

All star doesn't equate to better for the team. RW can score and he can defend, but he's a ball dominant player so he takes away from Durant, and having two ball dominant players on the floor at the same time means other people are not involved.

If RW makes that much of a difference, OKC should be a juggernaut when he's there, but they weren't. The Spurs did better against the Heat than OKC did, and OKC had Harden as well. That's 3 legit all stars.

[jimbo]

7/10

Ain't a stretch.

white people playing basketball
white athleticism

[Bill_Brasky]

Slurp slurp

[Bill_Brasky]

great comeback against a tier team

[daslicer]

All star doesn't equate to better for the team. RW can score and he can defend, but he's a ball dominant player so he takes away from Durant, and having two ball dominant players on the floor at the same time means other people are not involved.

If RW makes that much of a difference, OKC should be a juggernaut when he's there, but they weren't. The Spurs did better against the Heat than OKC did, and OKC had Harden as well. That's 3 legit all stars.

RW is a chucker but they probably don't lose to Memphis last year if he played in that series. Reggie,Ibacka,Lamb are not guys who can takeover a game like RW can when needed. The challenge with RW is that Brooks is going to have to find way to minimize his chucking and make sure he can still play at a high level without taking anything away from Durant's effectiveness. It reminds me of the same challenge Phil Jackson had with Kobe complimenting Shaq during the 3 peat years. I don't see OKC coming out of the west without RW even though they are winning a ton of games right now. The playoffs are a different animal and role players can be game planned against but its much harder to stop all-star players. That is one of the major reasons why the spurs would win a ton of games with Drob back in the day but end up losing in the playoffs due to role players like Del Negro, AJ, and Elliott being shut down.

[DMC]

RW is a chucker but they probably don't lose to Memphis last year if he played in that series. Reggie,Ibacka,Lamb are not guys who can takeover a game like RW can when needed. The challenge with RW is that Brooks is going to have to find way to minimize his chucking and make sure he can still play at a high level without taking anything away from Durant's effectiveness. It reminds me of the same challenge Phil Jackson had with Kobe complimenting Shaq during the 3 peat years. I don't see OKC coming out of the west without RW even though they are winning a ton of games right now. The playoffs are a different animal and role players can be game planned against but its much harder to stop all-star players. That is one of the major reasons why the spurs would win a ton of games with Drob back in the day but end up losing in the playoffs due to role players like Del Negro, AJ, and ****** being shut down.

Team changed without time to regroup. That's why they lost. This OKC team now would not lose to Memphis. Same team, more time without RW.

[daslicer]

Team changed without time to regroup. That's why they lost. This OKC team now would not lose to Memphis. Same team, more time without RW.

So do you think RW's return will screw up the chemistry or they will become even more of a juggernaut with RW? I'm still not sold on their role players and believe RW will be a huge reason on whether or not they win it all.

[DMC]

So do you think RW's return will screw up the chemistry or they will become even more of a juggernaut with RW? I'm still not sold on their role players and believe RW will be a huge reason on whether or not they win it all.

I think it will with chemistry for a while but RW has shown that he will not just ease into it. I think he defers more to KD than he did in the past, but he still wants to get his and that's going to be detrimental, not to KD, but to the other players who've been required to step up.

I don't know how many times it's been stated on here and elsewhere that all 5 players need to be involved on offense if they are expected to stay involved on defense. I think the defense slips after RW returns.

[Kool Bob Love]

[Calispursfan11]

[Malik Hairston]

Durant is clearly exhausted, tbh, he had to carry a huge load during the regular season..

I saw it happen with Lebron in 2010 and 2011, sometimes you just ask too much from your main guy..

[Salty]

When was the last time someone won MVP without advancing to the 2nd round of the playoffs tbh?

[ElNono]

When was the last time someone won MVP without advancing to the 2nd round of the playoffs tbh?

Dirk?

[spurraider21]

Durant is clearly exhausted, tbh, he had to carry a huge load during the regular season..

I saw it happen with Lebron in 2010 and 2011, sometimes you just ask too much from your main guy..

eh, the only load durant was carrying was the one you were spewing on his face in an effort to further prop up lebron

[baseline bum]

When was the last time someone won MVP without advancing to the 2nd round of the playoffs tbh?

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[Calispursfan11]

eh, the only load durant was carrying was the one you were spewing on his face in an effort to further prop up lebron

Ahahahahaha. Maybe Harlem's spunk is the root cause of Durbeta's acne issues.

[hater]

m>s dropping truth bombs on Canadian sexual's frozen head without no mercy

[Kool Bob Love]

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