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as I said, point still stands, most points in a compe ion, most points in a tie breaking final and biggest meatballs in Playoff history = GOAT
Ferrari doubters eating a sandwich
Did Ferrari win the contest, tbh?
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as I said, point still stands, most points in a compe ion, most points in a tie breaking final and biggest meatballs in Playoff history = GOAT
The events suck so bad that someone has been tasked with changing them. When stars stopped participating, the events became . Too much money involved for a star to blow out a knee trying some stupid ass dunk for a piece of tin. Also, too much at steak if someone like Lebron lost to someone like Wall.
A miss is a miss. There was no resetting of the shot clock and the Spurs don't rebound well.
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as I said, point still stands, most points in a compe ion, most points in a tie breaking final and biggest meatballs in Playoff history = GOAT
yes, I cosign hater.
Meh I'd don't see how there's too much at stake for LeBron, Curry doesn't give a about losing the 3pt contest... Doesn't make him less of a player... LeBron is extremely insecure is all.
"too much at steak"
seems to me this fat 's hungry
lol thread failed after 1st post."too much at steak"
seems to me this fat 's hungry
might be the only thing the Spurs win this season, tbh... props to GOAT Marco...
Did us a huge favor tonight.
Whatever Manu is missing in balls, Ferrari got it and some. Clutch mf
Spur 4 life
Goose egg
Kings fans want Beli off their team even more than I wanted him off the Spurs last year.
He did ball out in 2015 playoffs and like 2 months when we signed him. Other than that he was a zero the whole time. I'm glad we got rid of that bum.Kings fans want Beli off their team even more than I wanted him off the Spurs last year.
Worst SG in the league.
-6.43RPM
91 Marco Belinelli SAC 53 26.0 -2.12 -4.31 -6.43 -2.93
Wow.
He beat Curry/Klay in a 3 point shooting compe ion.
OMg
Imagine what tony would get on another team?
Coming from the guy who shot down anyone suggesting Aldridge > Bosh. LolKings fans want Beli off their team even more than I wanted him off the Spurs last year.
Still think CB is on another level and miles ahead defensively ???
Miss u Ferrari
obviously Kings dont know how to use sucb machinery. Give them a dodge
Just like with Gasol and Splitter, I'm glad the Spurs have LMA since Bosh's career may be over. But to think you had a case to laugh because you thought Aldridge has been better or even comparable this year. It's just shameful. You're supposed to pick your spots well if you only have a few posts, and you totally missed here.
EDIT: Just to be a bit more comprehensive here, LMA is leading in PER and WS/48 (20.8 to 20.6 and .201 to .177, respectively), but both of those have a lot to do with playing on a better team. PER is based on efficiency and percentage-to-team stats. Bosh and LMA both have similar usages rates (25 for Bosh and 25.2 for LMA), but that alone explains the difference. Then you get into quality of shots, since Bosh is the first option on his team and LMA is a hybrid first on his. Better your team is, the better looks you get, the more efficient you are. WS/48 is almost completely based on team stats, so I don't think I have to get into it.
Their per-36 stats are pretty similar with LMA at 20/10/2/0/1 with a 54.9 TS% and Bosh at 20/8/3/1/1 with a 57.1 TS%.
Last edited by Chinook; 02-25-2016 at 07:56 AM.
So you think I've taken a "jab" at you for rep and that I'm supposed to pick my spots better because of my post count??
Just like with Gasol and Splitter, I'm glad the Spurs have LMA since Bosh's career may be over. But to think you had a case to laugh because you thought Aldridge has been better or even comparable this year. It's just shameful. You're supposed to pick your spots well if you only have a few posts, and you totally missed here.
EDIT: Just to be a bit more comprehensive here, LMA is leading in PER and WS/48 (20.8 to 20.6 and .201 to .177, respectively), but both of those have a lot to do with playing on a better team. PER is based on efficiency and percentage-to-team stats. Bosh and LMA both have similar usages rates (25 for Bosh and 25.2 for LMA), but that alone explains the difference. Then you get into quality of shots, since Bosh is the first option on his team and LMA is a hybrid first on his. Better your team is, the better looks you get, the more efficient you are. WS/48 is almost completely based on team stats, so I don't think I have to get into it.
Their per-36 stats are pretty similar with LMA at 20/10/2/0/1 with a 54.9 TS% and Bosh at 20/8/3/1/1 with a 57.1 TS%.
I'm not out to make a name ( have been a member here for 10 years) and while message board "cred" is obviously very important to you I can assure you that I dont give a . I just thought your Beli statement was ironic considering your stance on Bosh / Aldridge this offseason and said as much.
I obviously hit a nerve since you felt the need to write me out an essay. Just like you try to downplay the PER & Win Shares that lamarcus leads I'll just say that RPM can be a misleading stat ( Kevin Love is 2nd overall amongst power forward).
We now know that LA has been a revalation on the defensive end for the Spurs and catapulted them to an elite level we haven't seen before .( Which funnily enough was one of your main points this offseason as to why CB is the better player). Bosh is still a good defender but no longer the weapon he used to be and is used differently these days. No longer can he jump, trap and recover just about every p&r like he used to be able to do up until last season.
In addition, Aldridge has had to learn a new system on the fly and adjust to the change in shooting attempts (eg higher emphasis in post, no threes etc), places he receives the ball on the floor, # of shots, minutes etc while Bosh has had the luxury of being in the same situation for an extended period yet they have just about IDENTICAL per 36 stats ....That is aside from LA being the better rebounder of the two. ( LMA at 20/10/2/0/1 with a 54.9 TS% and Bosh at 20/8/3/1/1 ). It's a moot point now since Bosh hasn't been able to stay on the floor The last few seasons ....Last season I'm pretty sure GMs would have gone with LAs durability if forced to make a choice but now it would be a certainty
A clear case can be made for LA being the better player and this current version of the Spurs is on a historic pace and may be one of the greatest defensive teams of all time. We don't know whether we would be having the same success with Bosh. in any event, to say that " they aren't even comparable" and that Bosh is "blowing LA him out the water" like you claim is just re ed. You surely don't think that.....
Should have just let it go or taken the L ...this was never a jab or attack on you for my rep.
But if I were to pick a battle...I'd go again with this one every time. Just on durability alone some GMs would have gone with LA last offseason (and been right)
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As you say later on, you've been around a long time and have less than 250 posts. So to be blatantly wrong in one of your few interjections is just silly.So you think I've taken a "jab" at you for rep and that I'm supposed to pick my spots better because of my post count??
Bosh is still better than LMA, so there's nothing ironic. And if you're gonna go around remembering my posts (yet I have no idea who you are), you should know that I've been on Green>Beli for a lot longer than my stated Bosh>LMA stance.I'm not out to make a name ( have been a member here for 10 years) and while message board "cred" is obviously very important to you I can assure you that I dont give a . I just thought your Beli statement was ironic considering your stance on Bosh / Aldridge this offseason and said as much.
Everyone and their mothers know why WS/48 and PER are flawed. You're only objection to RPM (which has its own issues for sure) is that Kevin Love as a good rating?I obviously hit a nerve since you felt the need to write me out an essay. Just like you try to downplay the PER & Win Shares that lamarcus leads I'll just say that RPM can be a misleading stat ( Kevin Love is 2nd overall amongst power forward.
And it's soooooo ironic that you talk about me writing you an essay in a post that is twice as long.
So Kawhi being healthy and Tim having a hot start to the season had nothing to do with the defensive jump? Of course, LMA has been better than expected, but he hasn't been that great, as demonstrated by the fall when Tim was out.We now know that LA has been a revalation on the defensive end for the Spurs and catapulted them to an elite level we haven't seen before .( Which funnily enough was one of your main points this offseason as to why CB is the better player). Bosh is still a good defender but no longer the weapon he used to be and is used differently these days. No longer can he jump, trap and recover just about every p&r like he used to be able to do up until last season.
That's just you making excuses. Bosh has been in different situations as well, going from LMA-style system built around him in Toronto to being James' lackey in Miami to being the starting center there to having Whiteside next to him. And guess what? LMA isn't done with changes either. If you go by career numbers, Bosh is way better.In addition, Aldridge has had to learn a new system on the fly and adjust to the change in shooting attempts (eg higher emphasis in post, no threes etc), places he receives the ball on the floor, # of shots, minutes etc while Bosh has had the luxury of being in the same situation for an extended period yet they have just about IDENTICAL per 36 stats ....That is aside from LA being the better rebounder of the two. ( LMA at 20/10/2/0/1 with a 54.9 TS% and Bosh at 20/8/3/1/1 ). It's a moot point now since Bosh hasn't been able to stay on the floor The last few seasons ....Last season I'm pretty sure GMs would have gone with LAs durability if forced to make a choice but now it would be a certainty
Or better success, which is why jumping on a person for what they said in the past when it's at best a wash is silly. Beli was bad in SA and he's bad in SAC. Anyone with eyes could see that. That's why it's hilarious that people wanted to keep him. Had Beli been playing well and gotten hurt, it wouldn't be funny. That's why I didn't comment about people wanting Gasol.A clear case can be made for LA being the better player and this current version of the Spurs is on a historic pace and may be one of the greatest defensive teams of all time. We don't know whether we would be having the same success with Bosh.
I never said anything about cred. I don't give a about you, and if you return to your hibernation, that's fine. But there's no "L" to take. Bosh was not available, so I never said the Spurs should sign him over LMA. I think he's a better player than LMA though, and the stats support that. You want to run on retrospective , which you can do only because you don't actually post anything. No one knows where you were on these issues. Give me a break.So in summary, Bosh certainly isn't "blowing LA him out the water" like you claim and this was quite an easy battle to pick! Should have just let it go or taken the L ...this was never a jab / attack on you for my cred.
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as I said, point still stands, most points in a compe ion, most points in a tie breaking final and biggest meatballs in Playoff history = GOAT
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