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    The problem with Green is he was turning the ball over and could not dribble to save his life. If he can get over that then he should be good to go maybe he was scarred and it took him some time to play relaxed....big lights big show..
    3 TO's in 75 minutes. Yes he can't dribble, but he wasn't turning the ball over. You might be confusing a series long problem with the 2 TO's he had close together in Game 2, tbh

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    Belli simply isn't for this series. Maybe in a series against a team whose defense ain't (Rockets perhaps) but not this one. Oh well

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    Beli is a luxury on this team and should be treated as such. If he's not hitting shots then there's no reason he should be getting steady mins when Green/Kawhi can both play 35+ mins a game tbh.

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    Pop isnt playing Green as much since Manu is playing well
    if you play Green then that means Manu would shift over to SF
    and Leonard would go to PF

    if you do that lineup then you can't have both Duncan and Splitter on the floor which is important since Ellis can get into the paint at will and Splitter has to stick to Dirk on the pick and roll
    Duncan is able to contest Ellis since hes guarding Dalembert who wont do anything outside of dunking so he doesn't have to rotate

    If Manu was having a bad series then he might play more but hes been the 1A best player in the series

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    Beli is a luxury on this team and should be treated as such. If he's not hitting shots then there's no reason he should be getting steady mins when Green/Kawhi can both play 35+ mins a game tbh.

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    I think earlier in the series Pop was going to Marco over Danny because Marco is better off the dribble and a better playmaker and since the Mavs were staying home on our shooters, he wanted to have Marco help the O. But the defensive trade off was too brutal, and Marco didn't really create much.

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    Pop isnt playing Green as much since Manu is playing well
    if you play Green then that means Manu would shift over to SF
    and Leonard would go to PF

    if you do that lineup then you can't have both Duncan and Splitter on the floor which is important since Ellis can get into the paint at will and Splitter has to stick to Dirk on the pick and roll
    Duncan is able to contest Ellis since hes guarding Dalembert who wont do anything outside of dunking so he doesn't have to rotate

    If Manu was having a bad series then he might play more but hes been the 1A best player in the series
    This too.

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    The problem with Green is he was turning the ball over and could not dribble to save his life. If he can get over that then he should be good to go maybe he was scarred and it took him some time to play relaxed....big lights big show..
    I don't know how this stance keeps surviving. At least it's not the, "Green can't finish at the rim," take that was popular at the beginning of the season.

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    Danny should have Marco's minutes. Give Marco a shot and if he isn't hot then stick to just Kawhi, Manu and Danny rotation for Game 6.

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    The Green/Leonard combo is the biggest difference between the failed 2009-2011 Spurs and the Spurs of the past 2 years, tbh..

    Belinelli's presence is too similar to the ty old Finley, Roger Mason and Richard Jefferson of those years..I thought Pop was finished with the offense-only wing players, but this series has proven otherwise, so far..

    Thankfully, he finally cut Belinelli's minutes in the 2nd half, hopefully that continues the rest of this series and the playoffs..
    Atleast Finley hit a ton of threes in the Spurs 07 playoff run though and came through against Dallas bigtime in 06, he really tried and could hit his shots. Belli just flat out misses and sucks it seems I agree on the later Finley though after 07, TRUE indeed. I agree on the other two as well, they sucked. Belli so far a huge dissapointment later in the year, period.

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    The bench works like this. If Belli is off on shooting, use Green, or use Leonard but Pop demands increased defensive effort AND feed the marquee players the ball if shot not on. That system works and explains Mills being given minutes on the floor when his scoring numbers were low. Parker was 9 from 23 and was encouraged to shoot. Mills wasn't sue shooting but played increased defensive, gave Ginobli & Parker rest time and fed them passes.

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    Pop isnt playing Green as much since Manu is playing well
    if you play Green then that means Manu would shift over to SF
    and Leonard would go to PF

    if you do that lineup then you can't have both Duncan and Splitter on the floor which is important since Ellis can get into the paint at will and Splitter has to stick to Dirk on the pick and roll
    Duncan is able to contest Ellis since hes guarding Dalembert who wont do anything outside of dunking so he doesn't have to rotate

    If Manu was having a bad series then he might play more but hes been the 1A best player in the series
    You have a lot of good points, but I'm not sure how playing Green an extra 10-12MPG instead of playing Belinelli the 10=12MPG changes up the lineup. It's a like for like swap... If Manu is on the court with Marco, he is a SG/SF. If he is on the court with Green, he is a SG/SF.

    It's not about Green getting 40MPG or anything, it's just about him completely eradicating Belinelli's minutes.

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    You have a lot of good points, but I'm not sure how playing Green an extra 10-12MPG instead of playing Belinelli the 10=12MPG changes up the lineup. It's a like for like swap... If Manu is on the court with Marco, he is a SG/SF. If he is on the court with Green, he is a SG/SF.

    It's not about Green getting 40MPG or anything, it's just about him completely eradicating Belinelli's minutes.
    Pop doesn't give up on players unless there name is Tiago Splitter and they fail to make a defensive rotation that they weren't making all season (2012 OKC)
    hes still trotting Bonner out there after all these years
    doubt hes gonna stop playing Marco tbh..

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    I thought the biggest difference was they hedged the pick and roll vs Harris and Ellis. Dirk is too slow to make them pay with a roll and it stopped the full speed drive to the basket.

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    The Spurs don't want to develop Leonard-Green as a great defensive combo?
    It's hard to create a "great defensive combo" when one of the two players isn't such a great defender. I'm not saying Green is useless on D, but he hasn't found his place against Dallas on the defensive end, that's for sure. He played 16 minutes and that means 16 minutes of Vince Carter hitting wide open 3s. He was Neal-esque in his 3-point defense last night.

    Pop's comment "I'll put up a poster of Carter on our bench so that my players know he exists" was mostly aimed at Green.

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    It's hard to create a "great defensive combo" when one of the two players isn't such a great defender. I'm not saying Green is useless on D, but he hasn't found his place against Dallas on the defensive end, that's for sure. He played 16 minutes and that means 16 minutes of Vince Carter hitting wide open 3s. He was Neal-esque in his 3-point defense last night.

    Pop's comment "I'll put up a poster of Carter on our bench so that my players know he exists" was mostly aimed at Green.
    Danny Green and Vince Carter were on the floor at the same time for 3 minutes and 18 seconds, tbh..Vince Carter only scored 3 points with Green in the game tonight..

    I don't know what the you were watching, my ..
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    Danny Green and Vince Carter were on the floor at the same time for 3 minutes and 18 seconds, tbh..Vince Carter only scored 3 points with Green in the game tonight..

    I don't know what the you were watching, my ..
    Obviously wasn't watching at all. Box score GM.

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    It's hard to create a "great defensive combo" when one of the two players isn't such a great defender. I'm not saying Green is useless on D, but he hasn't found his place against Dallas on the defensive end, that's for sure. He played 16 minutes and that means 16 minutes of Vince Carter hitting wide open 3s. He was Neal-esque in his 3-point defense last night.

    Pop's comment "I'll put up a poster of Carter on our bench so that my players know he exists" was mostly aimed at Green.
    Despite what a lot of Spurs fans (and apparently Pop) seem to think, Green is at least in the same tier defensively as Leonard. Danny only allowed eight points all game. The three Green gave up to Carter was because Diaw hedged so far that Green thought Boris was going to stay with Vince. When Diaw started running back to his man (Dirk?), Green actually got a solid contest on Carter's shot, but Vince was already hot by that time, so it didn't really matter. I assume Pop was upset with Green because Danny was supposed to know Pop didn't want to switch in those situations. But unless I got firm instructions not to switch, I would have assumed I was supposed to switch as well if I were Green.

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    Sit the down Marco. Have Patty teach you the finer ways of waving a towel.

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