Spurs: Tony Parker appreciation thread

[DMC]

No draft picks, no coach named, an aging Kobe. What would you "reload" to? Carmelo Anthony?

Lakers will no doubt be "better" in the coming years, but to think they're close to what we are is pure homerism to the highest degree. Lakers are doomed with how good the rest of the West is shaping up to be.

at rebuilding teams better than a team that has enough pieces to at least contend in the West playoffs for many years to come.

I recall a similar at ude when Shaq left and the Lakers sucked for a couple years, then the magical Pau acquisition and they make 3 consecutive Finals and win 2 of them. All it takes is for some juggernaut group to hook up, it can happen. Lots of players would love to play in LA.

[TDMVPDPOY]

the stretch in the game where he went through mo twice and gettin riled up for nothing cause lillard was starting to get his late in the game

seriously this clown should know better then to start huff and puffing this early in the series

remember when he got a big head playing h2h against westbrick in the WCF which led to the backdoor sweep....

lillard hasnt awaken y et, and when he does....expect him to lay a

one thing about game 1 enrique was taking alot of jumpers the blazers were giving him, the same amount of space the mavericks gave him but he was chicken to shoot

[dg7md]

When Shaq left, they still had a top player in Kobe. Kobe is still a great player but 2014 Kobe is not at his 2006 game.

I really don't think the Lakers are even a top destination to land any big names anymore if you consider the fact that the Clippers are easily the more attractable option in the LA market now.

The only player that could make a difference is LeBron and there's not a chance he isn't resigning with the Heat or returning to Cleveland.

[DMC]

the stretch in the game where he went through mo twice and gettin riled up for nothing cause lillard was starting to get his late in the game

seriously this clown should know better then to start huff and puffing this early in the series

remember when he got a big head playing h2h against westbrick in the WCF which led to the backdoor sweep....

lillard hasnt awaken y et, and when he does....expect him to lay a

one thing about game 1 enrique was taking alot of jumpers the blazers were giving him, the same amount of space the mavericks gave him but he was chicken to shoot

Rosetta Stone...

[TDMVPDPOY]

When Shaq left, they still had a top player in Kobe. Kobe is still a great player but 2014 Kobe is not at his 2006 game.

I really don't think the Lakers are even a top destination to land any big names anymore if you consider the fact that the Clippers are easily the more attractable option in the LA market now.

The only player that could make a difference is LeBron and there's not a chance he isn't resigning with the Heat or returning to Cleveland.

define great?

kobe was never a great player, he was nothing more then a 1 man team volume scorer who padded his stats after getting his pts first...

this is the same clown whoe beg and kicked 2 bigs off the team, next will be pau out off the lakers

[ElNono]

I recall a similar at ude when Shaq left and the Lakers sucked for a couple years.

Not really similar... I mean, if Dr Buss was still around I would give them the benefit of the doubt...

[spurraider21]

I recall a similar at ude when Shaq left and the Lakers sucked for a couple years, then the magical Pau acquisition and they make 3 consecutive Finals and win 2 of them. All it takes is for some juggernaut group to hook up, it can happen. Lots of players would love to play in LA.

except when shaq left they had Kobe... they don't have that piece right now or anything resembling it

[HI-FI]

In actuality, Lakers are well ahead on pace to win a championship compared to the Spurs are right now. At least we have conceded in the arms race and are looking to reload. Spur fans will know this soon

sorry DD, your best bet is to jump on that Clippers bandwagon. Their future > Lakers future as of now.

[DMC]

Not really similar... I mean, if Dr Buss was still around I would give them the benefit of the doubt...

Money and spotlight is still around. There are enough good players scattered on ty teams that one or two at the right time could totally change the landscape.

[ElNono]

Money and spotlight is still around. There are enough good players scattered on ty teams that one or two at the right time could totally change the landscape.

Maybe. They just threw $48.5m of their capspace into basically a retired player. That didn't happen then. Phil was also still available then, I don't think he's coming back while this FO is intact.

[Robz4000]

MVParker has been back for two games. Hope he's here to stay...

[DMC]

Maybe. They just threw $48.5m of their capspace into basically a retired player. That didn't happen then. Phil was also still available then, I don't think he's coming back while this FO is intact.

Cap space is an artificial ceiling that the really wealthy franchises don't need to worry about nearly as much as small market teams. Look at how much that Ruskie is spending in Brooklyn.

[whitemamba]

of course you guys are blowing him now, it takes 1 game for you guys to disregard what he does for your franchise. enrique this, hero that.. please.

[spurraider21]

Cap space is an artificial ceiling that the really wealthy franchises don't need to worry about nearly as much as small market teams. Look at how much that Ruskie is spending in Brooklyn.

there are only certain ways the cir vent the cap, and the Lakers aren't in a position to do so, and likely won't be for a while. the main way teams exceed the cap is via bird rights, where you are allowed to exceed the cap to resign your own guys. when bynum got his extension from his rookie deal, when kobe got his 3 year 80 mil extension, when Pau got his raise on his 4 year deal, the lakers climbed higher and higher above the cap. i don't see any players on their roster that will be seen as that sort of asset. it will be a while before the Lakers are in that sort of position again.

Brooklyn was able to get there after handing the massive extensions to Lopez, Gerald Wallace, and Deron Williams. OKC could have put themselves in that position if they paid harden the max. with the way the current CBA is set up, I'm doubt the Lakers are going to be able to just get around it

[Leetonidas]

Dude has his progeny now, he is playing like a man possessed because the Parker name will live on tbh

[ElNono]

there are only certain ways the cir vent the cap, and the Lakers aren't in a position to do so, and likely won't be for a while. the main way teams exceed the cap is via bird rights, where you are allowed to exceed the cap to resign your own guys. when bynum got his extension from his rookie deal, when kobe got his 3 year 80 mil extension, when Pau got his raise on his 4 year deal, the lakers climbed higher and higher above the cap. i don't see any players on their roster that will be seen as that sort of asset. it will be a while before the Lakers are in that sort of position again.

Brooklyn was able to get there after handing the massive extensions to Lopez, Gerald Wallace, and Deron Williams

Yup, not that simple at all... and the punitive nature of the lux tax makes it even more prohibitive. Obviously, the CBA might change at some point, but that's probably still a few years ahead.

[HI-FI]

Yup, not that simple at all... and the punitive nature of the lux tax makes it even more prohibitive. Obviously, the CBA might change at some point, but that's probably still a few years ahead.

I think the league will look at the profits and see if they want to lessen things, or push them closer to a hard cap. I've wanted a hard cap from the beginning but I really like this new CBA, better than what it was before.

I think the Lakers will be compe ive again, but not like the 00s. No Dr. Buss, no previous CBA, no Shaq or even rapist on the horizon. Plus the West is looking like it will be a dogfight for the foreseeable future. Also, I think the Clippers will be a much bigger thorn in the side for the Lakers than ever before. So the league might be headed for some interesting and uncharted waters.

[TDMVPDPOY]

lakers didnt give shaq the money he wanted

instead they gave that to 3 different players

whether with shaq would given the same result or not who knows

[AchillesHeel]

2nd best PG in the league as always, tbh... A healthy Parker is as good as any PG on the offensive end, he ain't no GP on defense, but he doesn't have to be for us to win another le. We were an epic chokejob away from our 5th le, even though Parker played on one leg and shot like Kirby would in the biggest game of the Finals, tbh..

[Arcadian]

This is actually a decent take. Spurs are still playing the rare instance card, where in the rare instance all teams are subpar or injured, they can make the Finals and maybe if the other team folds, they can win. It's a legit strategy, but will peter out before they win anything and the Lakers will be prominent again before the small market Spurs.

That...is a horrible ing take. Where do I even begin?

"Lakers are well ahead on pace to win a championship compared to the Spurs are right now."

1) No they're not because the Spurs are still in the playoffs right now and competing for a championship currently.

2) How can you say that when the Lakers are probably at their franchise's all-time rock-bottom? Thinking long-term is one thing, but you have to at least consider the present, and the fact that the Spurs and Lakers are on exactly opposite ends of the spectrum right now (with the Lakers on the end).

"At least we have conceded in the arms race and are looking to reload."

3) Yeah, you conceded like a little , while the Spurs are still contenders. Shut up.

4) Why would we concede when we're defending conference champions, and were the closest team ever to winning a championship without actually winning it? Don't try to glorify tanking when the only quality for your franchise is this arbitrary quality of "players wanting to play there." If that's all you have going for you, that's not something to be proud of - it's ing disgraceful. And in spite of that, the Spurs have still been the better franchise over the past 17 years.

[dg7md]

define great?

kobe was never a great player

Right...

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Something was bothering him against mavs, games 7 and this one he is showing good energy from quarter one till the end. Hopefully it's a good sign for the next games and he build upon it

Mavs used that pseudo-zone 3 wide across the circle to keep him out of the paint and allow his man to recover. it's the same look that Miami used to shut him down last year. Wall him off and try to steal any entry pass to the interior. Difference is that Miami had Bosh and James defending the pnr as opposed to Dallas' Dirk, Dalembert and Blair. Miami could hedge hard and recover.

I don't see the Blazers installing and executing it.

[Brazil]

I try to stay away from the Parker hate now but that just doesnt make sense to me. Youre implying the injury was severe enough to make him look like early on against Dallas, yet at the same time it was an injury he was able to get over in a week while playing heavy minutes in games every other day?

I think its more reasonable to just concede that hes not a true superstar and that he wont bring the consistency those elite guys bring. Throw different looks at him defensively (taller defender, take away his shooters, pack the paint, etc) and hes likely to struggle--healthy or not.

just at look at the games, Parker was globally fine the first half and faded like a sunflower without sun the more the game advanced. It has been reported he had back spams plus ankle, I've seen playing enough to know when dude has an issue. With back spams you can be fine during a while and with the efforts it deteriorates. He couldn't finish a break with meters ahead of Dirk, sorry but does not compute.

from games 2-6 he played poorly, he did not use injuries card as an excuse, neither am I tbh, defense adjustments bothered him as much as injury. I'm just relieved he is capable now to play two times 35 mn with same level of energy, gas from mn 1 till the end. We all are seeing the difference he makes for this team when he is playing at his level.

if by superstars you mean dirk, Lebron... You are absolutely right.

[Killakobe81]

He was amazing... he looked healthy too... if that's his new gear, we're a lock for the WCF...

Already was ...
Spurs OKC/LAC only legit contenders outside of South Beach.

Blazers win a game or two but that's it.

OKC might be less legit than Clips if they do not get their together. LOL Harden trade ...fleeced by an analytics nerd!

[Horse]

This is actually a decent take. Spurs are still playing the rare instance card, where in the rare instance all teams are subpar or injured, they can make the Finals and maybe if the other team folds, they can win. It's a legit strategy, but will peter out before they win anything and the Lakers will be prominent again before the small market Spurs.

God forbid you give the Spurs any credit. Put an asterik next to any sucess they've ever had. And the only reason the lakers rebuild so quick is because they are the golden child of the nba. Look no further than the gaysol trade the last time they sucked.