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[Useruser666]

uh..........

[j-6]

I must respectfully disagree that preseason NFL wagering is for idiots. Take tonights game, Chargers at Packers. Green Bay is getting three points at Lambeau.

Typically the first quarter features a mix of starters and second string guys, the second quarter second and third teamers with a few guys just trying to make the roster, and then the second half is all roster longshots.

Neither teams starters are expected to go longer than a quarter. I bet LT and Favre play a single series a piece, Brees maybe two, and Ahman Green maybe two. Javon Walker and Na'il Diggs aren't even suiting up.

Green Bay's defense was ranked #25 in the NFL last year, Darren Sharper is gone, and the Pack has a new defensive coordinator in Jim Bates. They're probably trying to install a new system while SD's is already in place. They ranked third in the NFL last year in passing, but when Favre's backups are (in order) Craig Nall, JT O'Sullivan, and Aaron Rodgers, I'm not expecting too much.

The Chargers had a full-fledged fight in practice earlier this week. Shaun Merriman and WR Vincent Johnson just signed and are expected to get long looks from Marty and the coaching staff. San Diego returns every starter that they had last year, and the only newcomers even looking at breaking the starting lineup are safety Bhawoh Jue (from of all places, GB) and first round draft picks Luis Castillo and Shaun Merriman. That, and backup QB Philip Rivers is pretty good, believe it or not. Cleo Lemon and Craig Ochs don't really instill fear into anyone, but I think SD just is a more complete team after this little bit of training camp, and want to go mix it up.


Not exactly scientific, I know, but San Diego will cover.

[batman2883]

I must respectfully disagree that preseason NFL wagering is for idiots. Take tonights game, Chargers at Packers. Green Bay is getting three points at Lambeau.

Typically the first quarter features a mix of starters and second string guys, the second quarter second and third teamers with a few guys just trying to make the roster, and then the second half is all roster longshots.

Neither teams starters are expected to go longer than a quarter. I bet LT and Favre play a single series a piece, Brees maybe two, and Ahman Green maybe two. Javon Walker and Na'il Diggs aren't even suiting up.

Green Bay's defense was ranked #25 in the NFL last year, Darren Sharper is gone, and the Pack has a new defensive coordinator in Jim Bates. They're probably trying to install a new system while SD's is already in place. They ranked third in the NFL last year in passing, but when Favre's backups are (in order) Craig Nall, JT O'Sullivan, and Aaron Rodgers, I'm not expecting too much.

The Chargers had a full-fledged fight in practice earlier this week. Shaun Merriman and WR Vincent Johnson just signed and are expected to get long looks from Marty and the coaching staff. San Diego returns every starter that they had last year, and the only newcomers even looking at breaking the starting lineup are safety Bhawoh Jue (from of all places, GB) and first round draft picks Luis Castillo and Shaun Merriman. That, and backup QB Philip Rivers is pretty good, believe it or not. Cleo Lemon and Craig Ochs don't really instill fear into anyone, but I think SD just is a more complete team after this little bit of training camp, and want to go mix it up.


Not exactly scientific, I know, but San Diego will cover.

Thank you

[j-6]

I must respectfully disagree that preseason NFL wagering is for idiots. Take tonights game, Chargers at Packers. Green Bay is getting three points at Lambeau.

Typically the first quarter features a mix of starters and second string guys, the second quarter second and third teamers with a few guys just trying to make the roster, and then the second half is all roster longshots.

Neither teams starters are expected to go longer than a quarter. I bet LT and Favre play a single series a piece, Brees maybe two, and Ahman Green maybe two. Javon Walker and Na'il Diggs aren't even suiting up.

Green Bay's defense was ranked #25 in the NFL last year, Darren Sharper is gone, and the Pack has a new defensive coordinator in Jim Bates. They're probably trying to install a new system while SD's is already in place. They ranked third in the NFL last year in passing, but when Favre's backups are (in order) Craig Nall, JT O'Sullivan, and Aaron Rodgers, I'm not expecting too much.

The Chargers had a full-fledged fight in practice earlier this week. Shaun Merriman and WR Vincent Johnson just signed and are expected to get long looks from Marty and the coaching staff. San Diego returns every starter that they had last year, and the only newcomers even looking at breaking the starting lineup are safety Bhawoh Jue (from of all places, GB) and first round draft picks Luis Castillo and Shaun Merriman. That, and backup QB Philip Rivers is pretty good, believe it or not. Cleo Lemon and Craig Ochs don't really instill fear into anyone, but I think SD just is a more complete team after this little bit of training camp, and want to go mix it up.


Not exactly scientific, I know, but San Diego will cover.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/recap?gameId=250811009
Favre completes nine of 10 passes for 91 yards, TD

GREEN BAY, Wis. (AP) -- Brett Favre's offseason work paid immediate dividends Thursday night in the Green Bay Packers' 10-7 preseason victory over the San Diego Chargers.

Favre, who trained with a strength and conditioning coach in the offseason for the first time, completed 9 of 10 passes for 91 yards, a touchdown and no interceptions in 1½ quarters of work.

He guided Green Bay on an 80-yard scoring drive in the second quarter in which he completed 7 of 8 passes for 64 yards, capping the series with a 23-yard strike to Donald Driver and then jumping into the arms of his center, Mike Flanagan, who missed most of last season following a knee operation.

"We accomplished one goal: we went down the field and scored," Favre said at halftime of the game that was played in a steady drizzle. "For the first preseason game, we played well and we should do well in certain areas. But we don't want to get too excited as we still have a lot of work to do."

Favre's revamped offensive line that lost stalwarts Marco Rivera and Mike Wahle to free agency, protected him well but didn't open many holes for Ahman Green, who carried eight times for 16 yards and had two of his team's six fumbles in the rain. Three were recovered by San Diego.

The Chargers didn't fumble at all.

Philip Rivers' 34-yard touchdown pass to Willie Quinnie early in the third quarter tied it at 7. Rivers completed 12 of 19 passes for 97 yards and no interceptions after replacing starter Drew Brees (2-for-5, 27 yards) to start the second quarter.

Nate Kaeding, who missed a 40-yard field goal attempt in overtime of the Chargers' playoff loss to the New York Jets last season, blew three chances to put the Chargers ahead in the fourth quarter. He was wide left from 45 yards and then wide right from 44 and 46 in the closing minutes.

J.T. O'Sullivan then drove the Packers to the Chargers 35, and Ryan Longwell kicked a 53-yard field goal that barely cleared the crossbar with 33 seconds left.

Favre's only incompletion came on a quick crossing route to Robert Ferguson in which defensive end DeQuincy Scott injured a thigh and had to be carted off.

Rookie Aaron Rodgers replaced Favre and had a horrible debut with the second-teamers, completing 2 of 6 passes for 7 yards and getting sacked twice.

On San Diego's first possession, wide receiver Eric Parker bit on his own quarterback's fake and cut off his route, allowing rookie Nick Collins to easily intercept Brees' long pass in the end zone.

Favre had to play into the second quarter because Green's second fumble was recovered by linebacker Matt Wilhelm, ending the Packers' second series after just two plays. Green also fumbled his first carry in slippery conditions but recovered it himself.

Green's propensity for fumbling loomed large in the Packers' 4-5 run -- including playoffs -- at Lambeau Field last season, their first losing record at home since 1991.

Among the Packers who missed the game were cornerback Joey Thomas, linebacker Na'il Diggs and nose tackle Cletidus Hunt, preventing the Packers from getting a good look at their rebuilt defense under new coordinator Jim Bates.

San Diego played without injured linebackers Donnie Edwards and Shawne Merriman, its top draft pick.

Green Bay's B.J. Sander averaged 46 yards on seven punts, a far cry from his disastrous preseason a year ago that included a 5-yard punt. He also held perfectly on Longwell's winner.

Yet another reason not to listen to me!

[Horry For 3!]

Why pre-season, you'll never know who is going to win....

[TheTruth]

Why pre-season, you'll never know who is going to win....

Why any game, you'll never know who is going to win....

[Horry For 3!]

Why any game, you'll never know who is going to win....

Well you have no idea how the teams are...so you can't do any prediction. It is your first time seeing them.

[Jimcs50]

As I said, you can not with any degree of confidence figure out a point spread in a preseason game. You do not know which players will play, and for how long, so there is no way to handicap a game.

Only an idiot will bet in Vegas on preseason in any sport. The teams do not try to win, much less cover any spread. All they want to do is evaluate talent and look at as many players as they can.

If you look at the point spreads in the reg season and look at the actual scores throughout the whole reg season, you will ses that the odds makers are pretty darn close a great percentage of the time. In preseason, they are off almost every game.

It is as I said, a coin toss...but the odds are not 50-50, so you will lose 10% of your stake....and that my friends is IDIOTIC.

[batman2883]

Thats fine but this is pretend money, might as well be using Monopoly money so what difference does it make if its all in fun????

[Jimcs50]

Thats fine but this is pretend money, might as well be using Monopoly money so what difference does it make if its all in fun????

The reason that I bet vBookie is that when I do, I think that I am an intelligent bettor, that I have some innate ability to know the outcome, that I am better than anyone else in picking the game. But, I can not do that in preseason, because I really have no inkling who will win the game, so I do not want to bet if I have a 50% chance of losing.

My goal is to catch Smeagol by the end of next year for the vBookie lead, and I can not do that when the odds do not favor me, unless I just get extremely lucky. I am a compe ive person and I want to win at everything I try to do, this is no different. I told 1Parker1, that I would catch her before bball season, because she was throwing it up in my face that she was kicking my ass. I have made up 50K on her so far this offseason and am only 1 K behind now....this is another example of my compe iveness. The reason I lost last year was betting on stupid bets, bets that have nothing to do with analysis, like who will score first, who will lead in whatever category...blah blah blah....those bets are dumb bets. Smeagol got lucky in those bets, but he could just as easily lost those bets.

In baseball betting, I do my homework and I am right more times than not, and that is where I am making up ground, so I can not afford to waste my winnings on a dumb bet.

[batman2883]

betting on preseason football got me more money in my vbookie accout.....so i guess that means preseason football betting with fake money isnt so stupid after all