LeBron is grilled meat. Duncan is a slow cooked brisket. Slow Burners baby.
Lebron is a genetic freak of nature, plus it doesn't hurt to have loads of PEDs coursing through your veins. No doubt Lebron is a top 5 all time player.
I'd still take Timmy. While not as physically impressive, he's just a pure compe or and leader, something Lebron is not.
LeBron is grilled meat. Duncan is a slow cooked brisket. Slow Burners baby.
Fair point..this was the only thing I needed to hear from others..A decent conversation.
Wouldn't you consider james a scorer, a defender a leader and a willing follower as well?
Not really a willing follower. I guess he listens to Spo. But I don't think he has nearly as much humility as Duncan does. I think James is a great teammate, but I don't think he can get his teammates to truly identify with him the way Duncan has. I'm sure that James can get there with time, but Tim's been there for about a decade now.
Also, bigs can just affect the game more than forwards can. James is an awesome defender. But he's not an anchor.
Lebron has already surpassed every active player in the league. So yeah, he is better than Duncan.
Lebron needed a top 5 bigman and top 3 sg to win his first le. he then needed the best shooter ever to bail his ass out for his 2nd ship. that's right, let's not forget had a Ginobilesque 6 Turnovers in that game 6. Bailed out.
I think we can safely say prime TD >>>> Lebron
no ifs ands or buts
Look everybody -- apalisoc_9 started a thread!
yeah, if i'm starting a franchise and i could choose either one of them at 21 years old to begin with, i don't feel like I could go wrong. Its easier to build around a dominant big man.
they're both special in their own ways
Lebron is actually comparable to Duncan in so many ways as a basketball player, tbh..
If you remove the personality/media coverage aspect, their style of basketball is so similar..they're both elite 2-way players that play team-oriented basketball, only shoot excessively when they are asked to do it, both took pay cuts for the benefit of their teams, neither guy has ever had an off-court incident or problems with teammates, etc..
They are also 2 of only 3 players(IIRC) in the modern era to lead a team to a le while leading Points, Assists, Rebounds and one of Blocks/Steals..2003 Duncan, 1994 Hakeem and 2013 Lebron are the 3 players that carried their team to a le with relatively limited support, probably the 3 most well-rounded players I've ever seen..
Lebron is compared to Dad Killer and even Kobe, because the media ignorantly compares the hype of players, rather than their actual style..Lebron is much closer to a Magic and Duncan type of team player, which explains his admiration for Duncan and why he said Tim is the best player of the post-Jordan generation..
Except he took his talents to the South Beach....
who gives a about basketball discussion on a basketball forum? probably most of us tbh
I'm new here, what do you mean by downstairs? Like the next person to post on the thread? Lol
I'm new here, what do you mean by downstairs? Like the next person to post on the thread? Lol
I agree with you OP, Duncan is a top 8 all time, I think Lebron will be top 5
Thanks for chiming in with some rankings. My soul is now fulfilled spiritually.
when LeBron wins a tle without an All-Star on his team I'll look at this .
I've never prayed to any god more than to hear your response after looking at the .
"upstairs" is here, the spurs forum. "downstairs" is the NBA forum
....and Tim was lucky enough to be drafted by a team that already had DRob and competent people in charge (as opposed to Cleveland), and STILL had to be talked out of signing with Orlando at the last second....
The whining about LeBron leaving is so played-out and old.... he's not the only superstar to change teams, and he honestly wasted too much of his prime giving Cleveland chance after chance to build a team around him while they failed every time.... why did the Cavs deserve his loyalty when they did absolutely nothing to earn it?
You clearly didn't see Jordan play then. Or Hakeem. Or prime Shaq. Or prime Duncan. Even prime DRob tbh. If you want to play the what if game, if DRob had players like Wade and Bosh helping him, he never would probably have extra rings before Timmy got drafted.
LeBron is great, no doubt. He is the great player right now. But there is a great player like him every 5 years. It isn't unique.
Both are best players of their generation but have different roles and position. IMHO thinking Lebron is better is not idiotic, dude can go down as greatest of all time tbh.
Great take OPI've sent to my brother to read, and will continue recommending to family and friends.
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