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    Less than a week ago people were stating that Parker is the best point guard in the league. Amazing how short of a memory SpursTalk has.
    it has nothng to do with short memory

    They are just stupid
    Parker best PG in the NBA

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    1 game ago we were invincible. Now its 2012 redux and Tony's washed up. Love the knee jerk internet age.
    The Spurs are invincible against OKC minus Ibaka.

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    it has nothng to do with short memory

    They are just stupid
    Parker best PG in the NBA
    He kind of is by default. Chris Paul threw a series with Ginobiliesque re ation, Derrick Rose is done, Rondo is injured and massively overrated anyways, Deron Williams is a fat piece of , he just killed Lollard, and Westbrook has just barely crept above 40% FG for the playoffs while shooting 28% from the three.

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    He kind of is by default. Chris Paul threw a series with Ginobiliesque re ation, Derrick Rose is done, Rondo is injured and massively overrated anyways, Deron Williams is a fat piece of , he just killed Lollard, and Westbrook has just barely crept above 40% FG for the playoffs while shooting 28% from the three.
    Being the best point guard is like being the tallest midget anyway, tbh.... nobody cares, the PG position is basically useless when it comes to winning....

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    He will score at least 30 next game.

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    Dat decline prediction from Hollinger

    If Parker's midrange game isn't automatic then it's an uphill battle for Parker who is usually the smallest guy on the court. Patty seems so much quicker although he doesn't have the driving or finishing skills of TP

    And goddammit to Parker playing for Team France. All will be forgiven though if:

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    The Spurs are invincible against OKC minus Ibaka.
    At first I agreed, but then I realized that it wasn't just Ibaka that killed us last game (and during the regular season). It was the extra offense they had (that nullified our bench advantage) when Brooks woke up and played more Lamb and Jackson. Those types of guys kill us.

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    Tony just needs two more good games. He doesn't need to be great, just good.

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    Tony just needs two more good games. He doesn't need to be great, just good.
    This.

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    Tony just needs two more good games. He doesn't need to be great, just good.
    Well really he needs 6 more if we're looking a head.

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    I don't think it's acceptable to write off his performances as justified due to his being injured. I think there's something there, but he still has to find ways to contribute. His turnovers and laziness on offense are not a result of any nagging injuries. The effort can still be there.

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    yes, disappointing season from him.. Sad part, i can't really find any tangible reason, because the starting lineup has been dismantling teams in the first quarter so hardly the whole year, it's not even funny..

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    I think there's more to it somehow... some games he looks amazing (game 7 vs Dallas, a bunch of games against Portland, first couple of games against OKC), but when he looks bad (Games 1-6 vs Dallas, last night), he looks really, really bad.

    Hard to explain for a kid in his prime, tbh... maybe Brazil that's peeking in this thread can chime in...
    First of all, schtick is nice but Parker is not in his prime anymore tbh he has a lot of mileage. I'm actually quite surprised a non athletic dude using his speed to make a difference is still capable to play elite when a lot of PGs of his age disappeared. If you add three years of non stop bb you got a receipt for a banged inconsistent player.

    He has been clearly ups and downs during these POs even though he was very solid against Portland and did the right things first two games against OKC.

    Yesterday I don't believe his injury was bothering him at all, I did not see him limping once. I believe though that even if they say rest is best, these 3 days cut his legs. He was just out of the game. By Pop instruction or not, fact is plan was to share the ball handling early then you see Parker giving up the ball and go to the corner waiting. That's plain awful, obviously this is what Pop wanted but it just s up Parker's game, he becomes passive on Offense and Defense.

    There is no one explanation but a ul of stuff imho

    At the end he played his most passive game of the POs. I expect a totally different animal game 2 but yesterday he rightly deserved to be called out.

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    Not to mention, TP has turned into mini-Lebron. He not only carries a large burden of creating offense (despite the fact they play team ball), but he defended Lillard, has defended Westbrook...Not to make excuses or say he's as good as Lebron, but he has a lot of responsiblity that very, very few carry all the way through the WCF..

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    Doesn't he still have his floater?

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    Doesn't he still have his floater?
    It hasn't been effective all year, and he doesn't look for it nearly as often these days. I don't know why.

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    Tony Parker has the worst on/off metrics of any Spurs rotation player in the playoffs, so far..he also has the worst WS/48, only a 16.7 PER and has the worst shooting efficiency of any player other than Jeff Ayres(which doesn't really count, since he has only played in garbage time)..

    In playoff history, of players that have participated in 10 or more playoff games during their run, the only players with a comparable usage rate that have played as poorly as Parker are 1983 Andrew Toney and 2000 Allen Iverson, tbh..

    Thankfully, there is plenty of time for Tony to turn it around, but you have to wonder, has last year's long run of MVP-caliber basketball + Summer basketball as France's top option taken a toll on Tony? Is age catching up? Both?..
    How's Tony compared to CP3? CP3 virtually lost the whole Conf Semifinals to OKC by himself..

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    The problem with Tony is that his game isn't very "advanced stats" happy, when he isn't efficiently scoring the ball he doesn't have many areas to make up for it. He doesn't rebound, he doesn't block shots, he doesn't get steals, he doesn't shoot threes, he doesn't get to the line much, even his assists numbers aren't all that great for an elite PG. But that doesn't mean he plays as bad as his advanced numbers suggest. He's still the motor of the offense even if he doesn't get baskets or assists and gives great effort on defense even if he doesn't get steals, blocks or rebounds.

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    Not to mention, TP has turned into mini-Lebron. He not only carries a large burden of creating offense (despite the fact they play team ball), but he defended Lillard, has defended Westbrook...Not to make excuses or say he's as good as Lebron, but he has a lot of responsiblity that very, very few carry all the way through the WCF..
    I think Tony Parker is a similar player to Lebron James on offense. I've been saying it the last two years to people outside of this forum. What I mean by that is, when their jumpshots are on, they're two of the most unstoppable players on the planet. TPs finishing ability inside just makes him such a tough player to guard when he's confident in his jumper and shooting well to go along with his inside penetration game. Another similarity, Lebron also had a tendency to disappear late in games earlier in his career on offense (mainly because of a lack of confidence in his jumper), something TP used to do and still does on occasion. Lebron's gotten much better at it these days though.

    Anyway, I think Tony is that good, but it just frustrates me to no end when he loses confidence in his jumper and just has a poor game in general because he loses his aggressive edge when he's not "on", on offense.

    Hopefully he is not injured and there is not something like that holding him back. I want to see him come back and finish hard the rest of these playoffs.

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    Recently Pop said Mills is magnificent - has been all season. But what does he do when Parker has a low strike rate; he puts Mills on for short periods does not instruct his players to set Mills up for 3 point shots ( look at last game Belli kept shooting & missing) then after Mills is denied a legit 3 by refs, pulls him off floor. Explain that. Parker needs a break during game; he is tired and stressed because he thinks team cannot win without him. He may be right ; but Pop needs to think strategically if Parker has an off night; not shut down.

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    Said it during the season and can't help but feel the same again. When Ibaka is on the court Tony shouldn't be the focal point of the offense.

    Pop needs to be the one forcing the adjusment.

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    Disappointing season for sure

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    worse playoff game since 10 years ago
    he will bounce back

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    Parker needs a break during game; he is tired and stressed because he thinks team cannot win without him. He may be right ; but Pop needs to think strategically if Parker has an off night; not shut down.
    Or Tony also needs to get tougher mentality so when he doesn't have a good shooting night not getting frustrated and be able to contribute in other areas of the game and not disappear.


    Pop needs to be the one forcing the adjusment.
    Pop won't make any adjustment next game. He said it's all about the execution on both ends. In his mind the system doesn't need changes or flexibility, the team just need to play better.

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