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    too bad what we need is a backup sf. malik played his way into the doghouse, and his contract certainly didn't help. pop won't forget him pulling his shirt over his head like a dumbass.

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    I really think it is between Rose and Anderson.

    Since Anderson is already not playing with the team, they would be able to get rid of his tax hit and not lose a warm body.

    Then when it comes down to Rose, Taylor, and Junkyard:
    Rose's contract has one more year than the other two guys (and also Anderson's)

    So if NY is looking down the road. By waiving Rose all four guy's contracts will be off the books in 07/08. Houston's contract is also done by then. They could potentially be just over the lux tax cap.

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    Imagine the public sentimate for the Spurs and the tickets sold, if you bring him back.
    Yeah, the Spurs are really struggling to sell tickets right now

    If the guy ed about PT before, what's he going to do with another guy taking minutes (Oberto)?

    Spurs fans need to give up the dream, it ain't gonna happen.

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    Malik messed up his last 1.5 seasons here. He got essentially no "effective" PT in that time, while the Spurs have gotten stronger in the front-line where a tweener like Malik just is not compe ive, not able to contirbute.

    I like Malik the person a lot. But Malik the bball player has very little to contribute to Spurs.

    The Spurs leadership, strengthened by the 05 le with Tim and Manu, is in excellent, productive status. Malik has nothing to contribute there, either.

    Ok, Bring Malik back to please the fans, as sentimental favorite (role he earned BEFORE he starting screwing up), but it doesn't make any basketball sense.

    Malik sells tickets sitting on the bench for 40+ minutes/game?
    Last edited by boutons; 08-13-2005 at 04:33 PM.

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    Malik sells tickets sitting on the bench for 40+ minutes/game?
    Basically, they want him to be the next Sean Marks.

    Not so much of a player. Just somebody who keeps the locker room happy.

    , I think even Malik is hoping for a little bit more than that out of his career, despite how much he loves San Antonio and the Spurs.

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    Malik Rose would not have put up with that soft ass we brought against Denver and Seattle. Whatever you may say about Malik, he was a warrior.

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    "Sean Marks"

    ... wasn't he headed for the $$$ in Europe for the last couple years of his career? Anybody know his status?

    Maybe Malik could pay Sean out of his Knicks un-earned amensty money to keep Sean here.

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    Malik sells tickets sitting on the bench for 40+ minutes/game?
    Youd be suprised how many people would come to the game now that Malik would be back.

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    Malik Rose would not have put up with that soft ass we brought against Denver and Seattle. Whatever you may say about Malik, he was a warrior.
    What was he going to do? Throw a towel at them?

    Youd be suprised how many people would come to the game now that Malik would be back.
    Yeah, if only Malik was around, those playoff games would have sold out.

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    Youd be suprised how many people would come to the game now that Malik would be back.

    Why would the defending champs ever need Malik to help sell tickets?

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    What was he going to do? Throw a towel at them?



    Yeah, if only Malik was around, those playoff games would have sold out.
    You tell 'em AH. And if Malik was around, we would have beaten those teams! Oh wait, we did.

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    There is no way Rose is coming back, we don't need him

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    IMO, have Malik replace Massenburg's spot and have that locker room presence.
    I'm pretty sure Malik is hoping for a lot more than Massenburg minutes and he's not going to get them here.

    I really like how some people around here keep pegging good players in their relative prime as coming here to accept Massenburg's bench role and minutes.

    The fact is that they are going to go where they are going to get playing time. The only people that want TMass minutes is young players who are hoping for a chance at a future in the NBA or guys like TMass. People at the end of their careers hoping to contribute a couple of minutes toward a championship ring.

    Any established player with gas left in the tank is not going to accept that role, for money and pride's sake.

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    If he gets released, Id be first in line to bring him back.

    You bring Malik back, having him on the bench would be beyond fantastic for the team.

    IMO, the championship didn't totally feel right, without Malik there.


    Id love to bring Malik back, I dont care how many big men you have, you can never have enough veteran leadership.

    IMO, have Malik replace Massenburg's spot and have that locker room presence.

    Everyone forgets how effected the team was after he got traded.

    IMO, bringing back Malik would fantastic.

    Imagine the public sentimate for the Spurs and the tickets sold, if you bring him back.

    Do it Pop




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    Rose was only traded before because of his ass contract. He would be great if he could come for not so much money.
    Don't believe that. He was traded for more than just money.

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    Malik messed up his last 1.5 seasons here. He got essentially no "effective" PT in that time, while the Spurs have gotten stronger in the front-line where a tweener like Malik just is not compe ive, not able to contirbute.

    I like Malik the person a lot. But Malik the bball player has very little to contribute to Spurs.

    The Spurs leadership, strengthened by the 05 le with Tim and Manu, is in excellent, productive status. Malik has nothing to contribute there, either.

    Ok, Bring Malik back to please the fans, as sentimental favorite (role he earned BEFORE he starting screwing up), but it doesn't make any basketball sense.

    Malik sells tickets sitting on the bench for 40+ minutes/game?
    That's bull . Malik put up points, rebounds, and 101% hustle every minute he played. Saying "Malik the bball player has very little to contribute to the Spurs" is blasphemy. Go look up the stats.

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    Spurs need a reliable backup PG and a long 3. They don't need Malik.

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    pullling your jersey over your head does not count 110% in by book

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    101% hustle
    Nothing says hustle like pulling your jersey over your head while your man runs down the court for a wide open bucket.

    Go look up the stats.
    Do you really wanna go there? His stats had decreased in every season since he signed his fat contract.

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    You're judging him on one incident. It was an accident. Every Spurs player has a bad night.

    Not manning up on D for one possession can be attributed to just about every NBA player. Were the consequences of the Spur's season affected by that one play?

    Malik is all hustle and his stats were great considering his "limited" minutes.

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    The last good season Malik had was 02/03, where he was a huge contributor to the championhip, avg'ing 10 and 6 and "energy and hustle" in 24 mpg.

    Since then as a Spur, a huge drop-off in contribution, more than his decrease in stats, which is why he's now a Knick.

    The Spurs are better now, Malik, even 02/03 Malik, would have a hard time getting PT.

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    Couldn't we have one giant permanent thread called the "Re-tread Thread" where all the people who want Malik and Jax and DA and other fan favorites back could rant and rave and piss and moan?

    But the rule would be that they could never mention those players on any other thread or they'd be banned by the site administrators.

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    Hey, you said...

    Malik put up points, rebounds, and 101% hustle every minute he played.
    Which I pointed to but one of several examples where that wasn't the case.

    Like boutons said, the last good season Rose had was 2002-2003. , I'd argue that the Malik Rose we all knew and loved (the one you are describing) retired with DRob. What was left after was a s of a bench energy player who thought he should be scoring like Tim, passing like Manu, and defending like DRob, while having the physical attributes to do none of the above.

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    But he was the Pumpfake Master, guys!

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    But he was the Pumpfake Master, guys!

    But Nazr has taken over that le and surpassed him in that category I believe. I always thought Malik pumpfaked a lot, until I saw Nazr. I always thought Malik had butterhands, until I saw Nazr. That being said, I don't think Malik will get waived and don't think the Spurs would have interest in Malik back here unless it was for a bargain basement price.

    Monday will be an interesting day. Free agency has kind of stalled out waiting on the amnesty cuts. It will be interesting to see who finally gets waived and what trickles down from there.

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