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    No you can't renegotiate contracts -- KG and Shaq took less money in contract extensions. They got all the money from their original contracts.

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    No you can't renegotiate contracts -- KG and Shaq took less money in contract extensions. They got all the money from their original contracts.
    He speaketh the truth.

    Like, OMG...Shaq's ONLY making 20 million a year now. He's such a team player.

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    Spurs need to tell the Knicks that Rasho is a forward and Thomas will make the trade

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    Another option about Nesterovic came to my mind. Deal with Miami, lol. Well, at least i know they don't care now about salaries.

    The deal would be like this.

    Nesterovic in a sign and trade for Damon Jones who would receive 6 millons this season and have a qualifying offer for next year.

    I know they already have a lot of centers but, taking aside the salaries, they would get a good player and keep the MLE.

    For the Spurs this would also be a great move as they would get a great shooting point guard to be Parker's backup and they would get free of 23 millons for the next 3 years.

    Jones would accept it since he would get really big money.


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    A Question has just came to my mind. When you do a sign and trade like in the case i am proposing can you give as much as you want to the player that is being signed and traded or you can just give as much as the salary allows?
    Does someone know the answer?
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    No way Miami would do that. Why would they want to trade away Damon Jones if they can keep him?

    Enough said. I wont even bother why they dont need Rasho.

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    No way Miami would do that. Why would they want to trade away Damon Jones if they can keep him?

    Enough said. I wont even bother why they dont need Rasho.
    well, if they use the MLE with someone else Jones will go to Cleveland because Miami wont be able to offer more money.

    I still don't know through if Jones could sign that contract in a sign and trade like that.

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    Well Jones would have to agree to sign that contract. He's a free agent. He probably wants more than a one-year deal (which I think is what you are proposing if I understand you correctly).

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    It would be one year at 6-6,5 millons. And for next season Jones would remain as a restricted free agent.

    If he signs with Cleveland he would get 3,4 millons as a maximum for the first year.

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    It would be one year at 6-6,5 millons. And for next season Jones would remain as a restricted free agent.

    If he signs with Cleveland he would get 3,4 millons as a maximum for the first year.
    Well he's unrestricted right now.

    Either way, I don't think Miami has any interest in Rasho and I think Damon has better options than a one-year deal.

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    I think the contract would work but yeah, you are right. He is unrestricted so they can't do sign and trade.

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    Restricted free agents can be still trade via sign and trade right?

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    This should be the last thread i start making possible deals involving Rasho and some other team.

    However, i think this is the "perfect" deal for San Antonio.

    Chicago is really desperate for a frontcourt player and the spurs already had some talks with them last season about Nesterovic.

    Moreover, the bulls still have Chandler, Curry and Pargo as restricted free agents to re-sign.

    The deal would be this:
    San Antonio send:
    Nesterovic $6,720,000

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    Chicago send:
    Eric Piatkowski $2,950,200 (expiring)
    Jannero Pargo via sign and trade signing one year deal at $4,000,000

    With that deal the Bulls would have one less player to worry about (Pargo) and they would get a good center to cover their frontcourt needs.

    On the other hand, the Spurs would get rid of Nesterovic contract and receive $6,950,000 expiring. Besides, Pargo should cover their needs at the point guard and Piatkowski would be a good addition.

    If we move Nesterovic there would also be more room for Oberto to get playing minutes.

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    Sure, if the Spurs would be happy with TAW in return for Radosoft.

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    While Chicago is desperate for a frontcourt player, they're not that desperate.

    They'll scour the NBDL, overseas leagues, African villages, people with thyroid problems, genetic mutants, and large Appalachian recluses with no teeth before they take Rasho off the Spurs' hands.

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    Of course, the problem with that approach is that if there's anyone in any of those places worth signing, the Spurs probably already obtained their rights eight or nine years ago.

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    if you are going to get something in return from Chicago they should get nocioni, who pop likes alot

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    While Chicago is desperate for a frontcourt player, they're not that desperate.

    They'll scour the NBDL, overseas leagues, African villages, people with thyroid problems, genetic mutants, and large Appalachian recluses with no teeth before they take Rasho off the Spurs' hands.
    when i say desperate for a frontcourt player i am refering to a good player like Nesterovic.

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    Spurs would surely do the deal. After all they offer Rasho for Abdul-Wahad once.

    And i can't imagine Pargo rejecting a one year deal for 4 millons.

    Both, Piatkowski and Pargo are good shooters so in that sense they can be very useful.

    Defensively, although Piatkowski is not very good, Pargo can make the cut.

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    if you are going to get something in return from Chicago they should get nocioni, who pop likes alot
    I also like Nocioni a lot but i don't think Chicago is interested in trading him.

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    if you are going to get something in return from Chicago they should get nocioni, who pop likes alot
    The Spurs could not get TAW for Rasho much less Nocioni.

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    when i say desperate for a frontcourt player i am refering to a good player like Nesterovic.
    1) Nesterovic is hardly "good." He's tall and takes up space.

    2) No team is going to bail the Spurs out of that contract. There's an unwritten rule that you don't help a defending champion like that, especially one primed for multiple future runs like SA.

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    The Spurs could not get TAW for Rasho much less Nocioni.
    Assuming that TAW is Abdul-Wahad i can say there was an obvious reason for Dallas not to accept the deal for Rasho. They are totally screwed with the total salary. If they were in a much better financial position they would have taken Nesterovic.

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    Pargo would be a more than capable backup PG. But man would I love for Chandler to be a Spur.

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    The problem with trying to trade Rasho (besides him being soft of course) is that everyone in the league knows the Spurs are desparate to get rid of him.

    However, I would not dump him for "pennies on the dollar" just to get rid of him.

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    1) Nesterovic is hardly "good." He's tall and takes up space.

    2) No team is going to bail the Spurs out of that contract. There's an unwritten rule that you don't help a defending champion like that, especially one primed for multiple future runs like SA.
    The deal would help both teams.

    San Antonio wants to get rid of Rasho but not because he became a bad player. They want to get rid of him since they got Mohammed last season and Oberto this season. And they will probably get Scola next year.

    Chicago needs a center and i am sure Nesterovic can cover their needs.
    Even last season he got almost 11 points in efficiency.
    In his last season with the wolves he had 11.2 ppg , 6.5 rpg , 1.51 bpg , 0.51 spg and .525% of fg.

    In regular season he started the last 252 games he played.

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    The deal would help both teams.

    San Antonio wants to get rid of Rasho but not because he became a bad player. They want to get rid of him since they got Mohammed last season and Oberto this season. And they will probably get Scola next year.

    Chicago needs a center and i am sure Nesterovic can cover their needs.
    Even last season he got almost 11 points in efficiency.
    In his last season with the wolves he had 11.2 ppg , 6.5 rpg , 1.51 bpg , 0.51 spg and .525% of fg.

    In regular season he started the last 252 games he played.

    I totally agree with you! It's a win-win stuation for both teams. Besides, has anyone seen the list of free agents next year?? There will be a TON of good players available next year. The Spurs should be totally in the running for some excellent players if we get rid of Rasho for any expiring contracts.

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