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It's funny how in spurfan's hypothetical scenarios Kobe always shoots the Lakers out of games, when in reality Kobe has a career playoff average of 25PPG on 48% shooting vs the spurs
This is actually correct, I forgot to add this. The 2008 celtics were the greatest defensive I have ever seen, and they boasted a balanced attack with 3 complementery stars close to their prime. That being said, I'm pretty confident that we could take them out.
It's funny how in spurfan's hypothetical scenarios Kobe always shoots the Lakers out of games, when in reality Kobe has a career playoff average of 25PPG on 48% shooting vs the spurs
Bynum and pau have terrible PnR D, spurs would shred them
Kobe has historically dominated Western playoff teams.
The 2008 Celtics were great in the regular season but had back to back 7 game series against vastly inferior teams. They also had one of the easiest paths in NBA history to win it all. Their playoff SRS is in the bottom 10 for all teams from 1968-2008.
They also managed one of the worst W-L percentages for a champion in NBA history with 16-10.
in case you haven't heard, Cuban broke the team up immediately after.the winningest franchise in sports, coming back from a barely lost finals appearance is different from a one and done team thats had difficulty making the playoffs since
I think some people are confusing the Mavs in 11 and a team with the same squad as the 11' Mavs. Even if you had maintained the same squad (even with Peja not retiring) it would've still been nearly impossible to defend your le in 12, with such appe e gone. Only few teams (like the spurs) have acquired a champion's mentality and such mentality ain't cultivated in one or two years imho.
Best frontcourt no longer=ringsReally? A frontcourt of Gasol, Bynum and Odom vs Jim and Splitter
With how fast the game has become and with how teams employ floor spacing, having two 7 footers on the floor at the same time is instant death today. Perimeter defenses are so quick and long now they can swarm a big in the post and still recover on outside shooters. It's why the Spurs are running hardly anything in the post through Duncan anymore.
As Rick Carlisle said, "Slow play=death." Bynum would be beyond marginalized in this matchup. It'd have to be Gasol at C and Odom at PF, which kills the Lakers big man depth. The Lakers also have no stretch 4. Odom is about .320 three point shooter.
And forcefeeding Kobe in isolation would be disastrous against these Spurs. Derek Fisher would also be a huge liability defensively.
The '09 or '10 Lakers would get murdered with speed and ball movement. Coaches have figured out how to counter big frontlines better than ever.
Plodding Triangle offenses are antiquated today.
For evidence of this point, Bynum didn't even average 20 minutes a game against the Suns in the '10 WCF.
Those run-and-gun Suns were far past their prime and not very good defensively, and they were a tip away from pushing the "mighty" Lakers to 7.
The Spurs pass the ball even better than those Suns and have a much, much better defense. But the Lakers would win cause "muh frontline."
Last edited by midnightpulp; 06-14-2014 at 08:38 PM.
Oh, and those Lakers were also a Gasol tip away from getting pushed to 7 by a young OKC team. The Lakers also had only one double digit victory in that series.
The Spurs crushed a much better and more seasoned OKC team, even when the Spearchucker returned, and closed them out on their homefloor without Tony Parker.
But Ibaka was 10%
Didn't stop him from jumping around like the monkey he is and blocking 3 shots a game.
Last edited by midnightpulp; 06-14-2014 at 09:44 PM.
How can you put '13 Heat over '14 Spurs (if they win) when '14 Spurs is clearly better than '13 Spurs and '13 Spurs should have beaten '13 Heat?
And putting the '09 Lakers above anyone is an insult to the game of basketball.
gotta take my shots at spur fan in the process
flying too high and mighty currently for my liking..
Yeah, I don't agree with any of the teams put ahead of the Spurs but you could at least make an imaginary case for them, you can't do that with the '13 Heat.And putting the '09 Lakers above anyone is an insult to the game of basketball.
Damn right we're flying high. We're about to (hopefully) avenge 6 like you did '06.
im rooting for yall and made a thread a while back stating so..but the homers are starting to step out of line
Still nervous as . I expect the wheels to fall off at any second.
Oh you mean the got that got yammed on by our 3rd string PG? That stiff?
'12 Heat probably give the '14 Spurs the most trouble.
1) They had an elite perimeter defense back then without having to resort to gambling. Wade's D was his bread and butter that postseason.
2) They weren't fatigued from going through 4 straight finals. Had the same kind of determination the '14 Spurs have.
3) Peak of their swarming defense. That's never a good sign with Turnobili around tbh
4) Their current role players weren't tired old bags
'08 Celtics were great in their time, but their defense isn't revolutionary anymore.
14 kawhi vs 13 kawhi
did he put on extra weight start of the season? seems like he got bulkier to handle the likes of lebron and melo who can play lowposts...
Honestly, I'm pessimistic as .
Just in shock that we have another opportunity after last year's devastation.
AS LONG enrique is still on this team, everyone is pessimistic...im expecting enrique hero or tina turnoboli to making an appearance
2011 Dirk would skull Splitter and I'm pretty sure TC would give Duncan a hard time. It's hard to pick between this year's Spurs vs. the 2011 Mavs.
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