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    Horry's more of a spotup shooter off the outlet. Like I said, I don't see Van Exel flourishing in that kind of role. He likes to create and come off screens to shoot.

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    He can create his own shot.

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    Is he clutch, though? Or are we still attributing that to him because of his Laker seasons and the couple of seasons following?

    One poster on MavTalk.com calculated Van Exel's clutch stats from the past 3 years... I can't validate them, but it's easier than calculating them myself. If he's right, Van Exel's "clutchness" seems to have passed him by.



    http://www.mavtalk.com/cgi-bin/ultim...c;f=3;t=001266
    The poster didn't calculated anything. He got the stats from 82games.com. The stats are accurate BTW.

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    this is a debate???????????????

    nve is a pg who is old and broken down with a bad at ude who chunks up ill advised shots and has no knees

    Finley all the way
    better shape, better game, a position we need

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    This is a good question. Out of the three, I think McKie has the least risk involved. He's exactly the type of solid veteran the Spurs usually go after. He'd be happy with five minutes a game, but would be capable of playing 20+ if needed. He also has a role player type game in that he only takes shots that are open and has been known as a good defender.

    NVE and Finley are both high risk, high reward type players. With NVE, you have a player who isn't afraid to shoot the ball in big moments. That's an element that the Spurs need. Last year, the Spurs only had a couple of players who actually wanted to shoot with the game on the line. NVE will take and make big shots. The downside to him is that it stunts the growth of Beno Udrih and you have to worry about his health. Veteran point guards who can no longer D up and force bad shots (CWard, ACarter) do not play in Pop's system. At best, NVE is a Terry Porter type player. At worst, he's the Charlie Ward disaster all over again.

    Finley only makes sense if the Spurs have given up on Barry. If they have, then yeah go ahead and replace him with Finley. He's a good shooter and can be a good defender in the Spurs' system. Plus, when he's not a focal point of the offense, he can be pretty clutch. The risk is that he's breaking down and he won't accept a role player type role with the Spurs. He's one of those players whose career has been shortened by playing for Nellie too long. Nellie played him 40+ minutes for a bunch of years in a row and killed his legs. And with the Mavs, he never bought the idea of coming off the bench. If he has that type of at ude with the Spurs, he won't last long.

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    McKie would cause the least amount of disruption in the Spurs' system.

    I don't see Finley as being happy in SA. He'd have to fight for minutes, play defense, and reign in his offensive game. Ditto for NVE.

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    Does Mckie have anything left though.

    Finley seems to have more left than him.


    Can Mckie still knock down the 3 with any consistency?

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    The more I read this thread, the more I like the sound of McKie. I know he's always been a top-notch professional and a better than average defender. Since I've not seen him play in a while, does anyone believe he has something left in his tank?

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    barry already dribbles around and does nothing, so we dont need mckie to do that
    finleys the man

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    McKie is a little bit better than that. Finley will likely not be available for the Spurs.

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    McKie is a little bit better than that. Finley will likely not be available for the Spurs.
    Let's hope not. Finley is a limited, inconsistent, one-dimensional jump-shooter.

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    I really dont like NVE as a clutch performer. He aint that good man. When I think clutch I think Jordan, Kerr, Horry, Billips. Not NVE. He aint clutch. Manu and Timmy will take that crunch shot for us. Horry too can do it. So I dont know why everyones trying to get another crunch time performer. We dont need another overrated clutch performer. We need good defense. The problem we had last year with Devin backing up Bowen was that devin had high energy and could score abit but could play solid defense. I can remember a few bad rotations he had and he went to sleep a couple of times. Mckie sounds much better to me in terms of defense and he will be cheaper than devin. he can take the veterans minimum and go for a ring. Devin will be looking for more. And as someone said earlier, McKie will be ok playing 5 mins or 20 mins. And he doesnt need to have the ball to be effective. He can spot up shoot.

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    I really dont like NVE as a clutch performer. He aint that good man. When I think clutch I think Jordan, Kerr, Horry, Billips. Not NVE. He aint clutch.
    http://www.nba.com/games/20030510/DALSAC/recap.html

    SACRAMENTO, Calif., May 10 (Ticker) -- Nick Van Exel never met a big shot he didn't like. Van Exel scored a playoff career-high 40 points and made a series of difficult clutch shots as he rallied the Dallas Mavericks to a 141-137 victory over the Sacramento Kings and a 2-1 lead in their Western Conference semifinal series.

    In a frenetic see-saw game filled with clutch plays, Van Exel seemed to make them all. Not even a member of the starting lineup, he is averaging 32 points through the first three games and has become the pivotal player in a series filled with stars.

    "We have so many good shooters, so you get an opportunity to get some good looks. And not really just forced shots," Van Exel said. "So that's the best thing about it. When you're shooting the ball well, your teammates tend to find you and when they do, you have a lot of space to get your shots off."

    "He made big plays again all night long, tough shots, big shots," Kings coach Rick Adelman said. "He just played great. He gives them a huge boost when he comes off the bench."

    Van Exel rallied the Mavericks with fearless shooting in the fourth quarter, forced overtime with a running jumper with 3.8 seconds left and struck again in the second OT with the go-ahead 3-pointer and the clinching free throws.

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    Thats just one game. Anyone can have a one game. Just because TMac was clutch against us for 13 secs does it mean you want him to take your every last shot? Please.

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    Indeed. Put him, Ginobili and Horry on the floor to close out games and you have 3 clutch shooters with TD down low.
    Plus you have a passing center in Oberto.

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    NVE and Finley are both high risk, high reward type players. With NVE, you have a player who isn't afraid to shoot the ball in big moments. That's an element that the Spurs need. Last year, the Spurs only had a couple of players who actually wanted to shoot with the game on the line. NVE will take and make big shots.
    Small ball: Van Exel, Manu, Barry, Horry, Timmy (Tony is out for the year with chronic tendinitis -- thanks Euro-ball).

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    Bump.

    Just wondering where the Van Exel haters in THIS thread are?

    Curious.

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