Patty Mills: Best back-up PG in the Parker Era?

[TheGreatYacht]

Mills > Hill

its not even close

Mills took over games by himself dropping 30. Hill helped the Spurs get swept by Phoenix

[Dizzle]

george hill is a big reason pacers will never win a ring... if the pacers had rondo or tony parker theyd be repeating now

[doobs]

I remember being upset when the Spurs traded Hill for some dude from SDSU.

[Leetonidas]

TJ Ford would've been the best if he hadn't been forced to retire. We started to see glimpses of his passing abilities with the second unit before he went down and it was amazing to have that from a backup PG. Too bad how it ended for him, he'd be sick off the bench with this Spurs team imho

[Raven]

Actually aside of the miami series he was fairly underwhelming.

[Raven]

TJ Ford would've been the best if he hadn't been forced to retire. We started to see glimpses of his passing abilities with the second unit before he went down and it was amazing to have that from a backup PG. Too bad how it ended for him, he'd be sick off the bench with this Spurs team imho

I dont agree, ive always considerd him a defensive cancer and a loser...

[Leetonidas]

He played for teams most of his career. He was never a #1 option and a make or break guy so to call him a loser is rather unfair tbqh

[Cry Havoc]

It baffles me that people think Neal was a PG. He was not a good ball handler.

[littlecoyotecoin]

It baffles me that people think Neal was a PG. He was not a good ball handler.

Yes. He was horrible. It was a shame he got so many minutes as a backup PG. Painful to watch. Especially in a league where guards are supposedly commonplace. Not point gaurds. Not in San Antonio.

[TheyCallMePro]

Patty is the best and my personal favorite. But I loved Gary Neal. He would take tough shots for us and make them. Remember his bank shot 3 in game 7 last year? And his game-tying, buzzer-beating 3 against Memphis in 2011 to keep us alive in that series? Gary wasn't as fast or tenacious on D as Patty, but he could create for himself more beyond the arc. He chucked it more, but he was great.

[Baam]

GHill was the best and Gary the most clutch and the most exciting to watch.

[mandel17]

Patty's Game 5 heroics reminded of me of when Steve Kerr went ballistic in the 2003 WCF Game 6. I give Patty the nod as best back-up PG in the Parker era - just slightly ahead of Shane Heal (2003-04).

[littlecoyotecoin]

Patty is the best and my personal favorite. But I loved Gary Neal. He would take tough shots for us and make them. Remember his bank shot 3 in game 7 last year? And his game-tying, buzzer-beating 3 against Memphis in 2011 to keep us alive in that series? Gary wasn't as fast or tenacious on D as Patty, but he could create for himself more beyond the arc. He chucked it more, but he was great.

That sort of proves the point. He had to create for himself, beyond the arc, because he couldn't dribble pentrate or create for anyone else inside the arc, because he isn't a point guard and was bad at running the point. As opposed to Ginobili who is good at all of those things, as well as a good shooter beyond the arc, even though he doesn't normally play the point.

[tmtcsc]

The best true PG we had in the TP era was Beno Udrih. Not sure what got him in the dog house but I always thought he was pretty good. Too much partying? Not enough focus or determination?

[100%duncan]

bump...

A lot of people overrate Neal for his heroics imho, and I must say I am guilty of doing it before, but with what Patty has done this year esp in OKC and Miami how can you even consider Neal to be better than him.
tmtcsc Udrih will forever be a scrub. He was so soft and looked lost everytime he was on the court.

[therealtruth]

Hill's biggest issue is that he was one of the worst guards in the league defending the pick and roll and fighting over screens. His defense was so ridiculously overrated here. He could lock down isoball players like Kobe, but the Spurs might as well have had Shaq as soon as someone set a screen. Watching him get absolutely destroyed by Nash in 2010 was painful and starting him over Parker that series was such a colossal mistake. What an albatross he'd be on the Spurs' cap had they paid him market value. Give me Patty any day.

Good point. I believe we lost that '10 series in the first 5 minutes because of Nash abusing George Hill.

[therealtruth]

Patty Claxton. Still bailing out TP in '14.

[rmt]

The best true PG we had in the TP era was Beno Udrih. Not sure what got him in the dog house but I always thought he was pretty good. Too much partying? Not enough focus or determination?

Beno couldn't bring the ball up the court vs Pistons in 05. Pop felt the series turned when Parker sat to rest and Pistons pressured Beno.

[Tuddy]

The balls in Ginobili's hands mostly in the halfcourt so id call him a SG

[spursparker9]

Beno was good until he met Lindsy Hunter.

[Texas_Ranger]

Best backup playmakers since 2003 were Beno and TJ Ford. They both knew how to pass the ball. The 2005 Pistons did destroy Beno, but he was just a rookie playing agains the best defensive team in the league but even Parker was benched for Claxton in 03 agains a not really that good Nets defenders.

[xmas1997]

Speedy Claxton for sure.

[carina_gino20]

Hill's biggest issue is that he was one of the worst guards in the league defending the pick and roll and fighting over screens. His defense was so ridiculously overrated here. He could lock down isoball players like Kobe, but the Spurs might as well have had Shaq as soon as someone set a screen. Watching him get absolutely destroyed by Nash in 2010 was painful and starting him over Parker that series was such a colossal mistake. What an albatross he'd be on the Spurs' cap had they paid him market value. Give me Patty any day.

I still remember the frustration of watching Hill 'fight' those screens. You just knew what was going to happen next.

[100%duncan]

It's frustrating how people underrate Patty's defense tbh If you look closely on games against Miami, Mills was constantly put by Pop on Allen because DG had to check Wade and Kawhi had to guard Lebron therefore leaving Mills the only guy who has the speed and peskiness to run through the screens done for Allen. There were even times where Mills was put on to Bron because of switches and Lebron couldn't even drive it past him.

[tmtcsc]

bump...

A lot of people overrate Neal for his heroics imho, and I must say I am guilty of doing it before, but with what Patty has done this year esp in OKC and Miami how can you even consider Neal to be better than him.
tmtcsc Udrih will forever be a scrub. He was so soft and looked lost everytime he was on the court.

I remember he was fantastic against Phoenix and gave Nash fits. Detroit was a mess but Beno had some terrific games when he had to play major minutes. I think his time away from San Antonio improved his game. He didn't look soft against OKC in this year's playoffs with Memphis. When Conley was down, he took the game to the Thunder and wasn't afraid to take big shots.