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The FBI said in the OKC bombing that making a bomb like that requires a lot of expertise. , before 911 there was instructions on the web of how to make a nuke, but that didn't mean it was easy.
Are they evil because they injure or kill innocent civilians? or is it because they use force in an effort to get across their ideas? In either case, wouldn't the same logic apply to any nation's forces that get involved in a theater of war? I mean, where do you draw the line between a righteous (and thus justified?) killing of civilians and an innocent (and thus evil?) killing of civilians?
The FBI said in the OKC bombing that making a bomb like that requires a lot of expertise. , before 911 there was instructions on the web of how to make a nuke, but that didn't mean it was easy.
addendum:
You want to see a kick ass movie based on the 1993 WTC bombing, watch 'Path to Paradise' which was an HBO production.
Basically they had an arab dude that worked for that 'blind mullah' screaming to high heaven to the FBI...'THEY'RE GONNA BLOW UP THE WTC.'
The part that caught my eye, was the travels in China that KSM and Yousef did, to get money and expertise for their operations.
You can't even build a campfire, aggie.
You contradicted yourself in your own post.
The evil that is implied by the constant rhetoric is one of good vs. evil. Thats not the case. They have an agenda, and are trying to kill people to meet that agenda. As was pointed out to you above, that is something all countries and armed forces do.
Along the same lines, Jess picked up a book for me at Borders tonight.
Dying To Win
It breaks down suicide terrorism and provides a indepth look at the problem and goes on to provide possible prevention measures etc etc.
Evil? Or motivated with political agendas?
Should be a good read. Anyhow, the word evil is great for speeches and for motivating the masses, but holds little to no value in an objective view of terrorist actions.Rather, what nearly all suicide terrorist attacks ahve in common is a specific secular and strategic goal: to compel modern democracies to withdraw military forces from territory the terrorists consider to be their homeland. Religion is rarely the root casue, although it is often used as a tool by terrorist organizations in recruiting and in other efforts in service of the broader objective.
All I know is, looking at the faces of the hijackers over and over and seeing how freely they moved in the US is creepy.
Come say that to one of the Aggies on here face to face. Make sure your parents paid up your dental insurance first.
Ooooh that's scary. My parents are dead, kid. I'm scared of a lot of things, aggies aren't one of 'em. Any size any shape any age. Now, go blo' yourself, kiddo.
aTm=nitwit U
can anyone who's watched this show tell us more about it
damn it feels good to be an internet gangsta
thats why you have to try to be the internet tough guy - protected through a screen
You're the one gonna 'bust out teefs', son. You started it.
Come say that to one of the Aggies on here face to face. Make sure your parents paid up your dental insurance firstRUN FORREST RUN !!!!every two-bit pyromanic knows how to make an ammonium nitrate bomb, even before the advent of the internet.
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The show went into details about the hijackers, how the plan came about, how they were able to move about, get passports, go to flight school, etc. Then it talked about the policy makers, who did what, who didn't, what was missed. It covered the attacks in detail, timelines, some of the heroes who helped people out and died in the buildings. Lastly, there were comments made by former FBI/CIA types who said that we just didn't understand all that was involved and what was still to come. The last thing they showed was a quote from Bin Laden from November 2001 -
"We love death. The U.S. loves life. That is the big difference between us."
I just got through watching the second half of it, other than bringing me flashbacks of 9/11 , it once aghain made me realize the absolute importance of keeping up the fight against terrorism. Never again must we let this happen to us, regardless of anything!
That sent chills down my spine"We love death. The U.S. loves life. That is the big difference between us."
-Osama bin Laden, 2001."We love death. The U.S. loves life. That is the big difference between us."
You know what's the saddest part about that quote? Given the absolute bluntness conveyed by OBL, dumb liberals still won't get it, and stupid es like Cindy Sheehan will still run around with their heads up their ing asses oblivious to the fact the only good American is a dead one in the eyes of those we are fighting.
Wow I missed this the first time, congratulations on proving you're a grade A asshole.You can't even build a campfire, aggie.
Dude that is ing uncalled for! People died, it's nothing to make a joke or an insult about and definitely not for this trivial bull aggie vs longhorn rivalry.
Moving on...
I just now caught the 2nd part and I'm watching the 1st part right now (out of order I know). The 2nd part was pretty much everything I had read about and seen post 9/11 but it still gave me the chills while watching. Hearing all the widows tell the stories of their husbands was pretty heartwrenching just as it has been since 2001. There's a quote sometime in the program where someone says that we didn't have the imagination for something like this to happen. I somewhat agree. General public, everyday average joe american, myself included, can't fanthom this type of event. I still can't even after watching it with my own eyes. It's unreal. But then they show you these FBI guys who are saying "we're devestated, but not surprised at the magnitude of things" It's ing insane. But the program is informational and I think well-made.
4 years later, I still haven't been able to wrap my brain around the whole thing. Every time I see the second plane, it still shocks me.
Ok. This really pissed me off AHF. Dumb liberals? Dumb liberals is right. Dumb liberals who came aboard to be Sec of State and made a dumb liberal presentation at the dumb liberal UN. Those dumb liberals that voted for the Iraqi war resolution when the real fight was really far ing north of there. John Edwards was an idiot to cosponsor that piece of legislation. Dumb liberals that have no idea how to win the so called war on terror but are instead more interested in doing whatever bull it takes to ensure election.
Dumb liberals that allow dumbu "feel good" security measures such as consentiual random searches and throwing away that dumb writ of habeous corpus while our borders are patroled by one dumb per state. Oh, and lets not forget the dumb liberals that allow policies of shooting potential suicide bombers because everyone knows suicide bombers can't build a trigger that requires a loss of pressure as opposed to pushing a button. Grenades, dumb s?
Well I have news for you. There surely are lots of dumb liberals. But for everyone of the dumb liberals in this country, there is one equally dumb conservative. And the sad thing? There's a HUGE dumb conservative president.
The solution is out there. Unfortunetly, dumb liberals and dumb conservatives are too busy calling each other dumb s amid the cluster they both created to look pass the bull and see the real solutions and causes of the problems they are trying to solve.
Yeah, Cindy sure isn't solving any of the problems of the war on terror. But here's a ing newsflash:
Neither did her son in Iraq.
Dumb .
, I was looking for an excuse to visit Jim and his nitrous tank!
Oh come off it Manny. You know I don't mean most moderate libs. You know I'm referencing the idiots like Michael Moore, George Soros, Cindy Sheehan, Jane Fonda, etc. that think that some brilliant idea of isolationism is going to solve the current militant Islam problem in this world.
Those are the ones who would watch mushroom clouds go up over NYC, DC, LA, etc. and say 1) it's Bush's fault and 2) they're just misunderstood, if we just leave them alone they'll leave us alone.
We're at war with the ideology of radical Islam. It's not going to be solved in George W. Bush's lifetime. Not yours or mine either. At least not if we're going to win. The problem is I see far left libs that don't seem to get it.
Far left libs that read that quote from OBL and think it's all his hate for George W. Bush and that a democratic president will somehow make things better, etc.
I don't agree with everything Bush does, I just wish that those on the far left would get a freakin' clue.
You're smarter than that Manny, and you know me better than to come on here and spout that bull rhetort you just threw out.
By the way, for all the venom that exists between the libs and conservatives, I've seen Kerry, Hillary, etc. come out in support of us finishing the job in Iraq and appreciate them for having enough intelligence to realize and acknowledge that.
We have to finish the job but do it right.
Republican Hagel is wrong, IMO.
In an objective view the terrorists are murderous power hungry and opressive thugs...
What's holding up the Iraqi cons ution...I know it's not the muslims arguing over Oil money...Couldn't be.
murderous power hungry and oppressive, this sounds familiar.
oh wait, we haven't killed a single innocent in iraq
oh wait, the guys calling the shots in this country are not power hungry
oh wait, we're not oppressing several ethnic groups that most US citzens know about
oh wait, we are doing this stuff
objective indeed
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