MB's strategy for remainder of offseason (revised)

[Rubberducky]

The issue is that some guy on this board basically says he would make this trade in the ungodly instance he somehow got a hold of the GM phones. The rest of us, terrified that he might be so unhinged to actually steal Pop or Buford's cell phone and/or email account access and bust this trade through, want to make it abundantly clear what an awful, ridiculously awful idea this is.

[KEVIN78250]

I Would Send Beno Instead Of Barry, You Could Have Barry Run The Point

[Samr]

I Would Not Touch Beno At All. I Think The Guy Has A Lot Of Potential And Will Be A Steady Backup For Years To Come.

[Marcus Bryant]

Your racism is really tiresome, especially trotting out that kind of stupid statement when your argument holds no water at all. It's not productive and it amounts to an ad hominum attack on the entire board. I wonder you don't get a reprimand. I know I don't appreciate it.

My "racism"? Barry's game isn't worth the hype he gets in here. Period. Barry's always been overhyped, primarily because he's the white boy with a smidgen of hops.

I'm not offering an idea here because I'm busy - along with everyone else - with ripping yours down. There is no one on the planet with the exception of you and maybe Spreewell who would make that trade. It's plain idiocy. Barry is a more versatile player than Spreewell, who was a good scorer in this league, though his production is dropping.

You don't have any ideas. All you can do is try to piss on someone else's because you are a bitter ass and you're scared.

And Barry's production hasn't slipped in the L? Get real.

Tone down the racism. It's making a complete and utter tool out of you.

Ha. I'm making use of my tool: you.

[Rubberducky]

I Would Not Touch Beno At All. I Think The Guy Has A Lot Of Potential And Will Be A Steady Backup For Years To Come.

like music to my ears. he could be a monster if pop gives him more minutes. putting Beno an Manu in together could be a lot more effective than with a Manu and Sprewell combo.

I Would Send Beno Instead Of Barry

that slays me.

[smeagol]

Sign and trade: Barry for Sprewell

I would not do that trade.

[Gummi]

That's so far from the reality. First of all, Spreewell would never ever ever ever come and play for any team for 8-10 mins a night. Commom. Also, why in the world would either Jones or Evens come here and be happy on the inactive list when they could get lots of playing time with other teams? If you haven't noticed before, San Antonio isn't really a hotbed for free agents that are under the age of 35. Players aren't lining up to sign with us. And also one thing, the Spurs aren't going to sign either Jones or Evens if they'll re-sign Brown.

This team of yours is so far from the reality it's not even funny. McKie is another ? signing of yours. The Spurs aren't like the Lakers, collecting swing players. Why do we need Manu, Bowen, Brown, Spree, McKie, and Jones/Evans?

The swing man rotation will most likely be Manu, Bowen, Barry, Brown and Robinson. Or no Robinson or Brown then Evans or Jones.

Sorry Bryant; this will never happen.

[Rubberducky]

I think we should:

-Screw Sprewell
-Re-Sign Brown
-Sign Mckie: I don't know why everyone is ting on him. He fills the role of back-up SF, can play defense, has good longe-range shooting, and would not complain about $$$ or PT.

[Gummi]

Sprewell is a headcase. You never know what he's going to do next. Look how he and Cassell ruined the team chemestry before last season.

McKie is a player that every team would love to have. A pure professional. I wouldn't mind signing him if Glenn Robinson isn't going to return.

[spurster]

I would agree Spree > Brent everything else being equal, but the Spurs need outside shooting that plays off their inside game. Brent provides that better than Spree. Even when Brent sucked, other teams didn't want to leave him open.

[Duff McCartney]

If MB was the Spurs GM...he'd want to sign this guy based on his skin.....

[Marcus Bryant]

Duff is obviously in thrall of Barry's "surprising athleticism"...

[Cant_Be_Faded]

marcus im going to have to disagree with you here

spreewell is not San Antonio Spurs material...

[z0sa]

wow why we arguing about skin color? theres no reason to bring stuff like this up. if you want to express your political and social views then you should do it in another more appropriate forum, not while we're talking about basketball. that's just disrepecting the game.

anyway, I personally love sprewell, but he wouldn't fit on the Spurs. He needs at least 20 minutes playing time, he likes to shoot the midrange shot which the spurs need 3pt shooting, and hes the type you might call a chemistry killer. I think Barry just is more fit for the spurs inside-out type gameplay.

[Horry For 3!]

• Sign and trade: Barry for Sprewell
• Sign McKie for remainder of MLE or full LLE
• Sign Evans or Jones for remainder of MLE or full LLE

Then the Spurs' perimeter would look like:

Starters
1 Parker
2 Ginobili
3 Bowen

Bench
1 Udrih
2/3 Brown
2/3 McKie
2/3 Sprewell

IR
1 vet point
2/3 Evans or Jones


Minutes breakdown:
1 Parker 34
1 Udrih 14
2 Ginobili 30
2 Sprewell 10
2 Brown 8
3 Bowen 28
3 McKie 10
3 Sprewell 8
3 Brown 2

This would give the Spurs an experienced, defensive-oriented perimeter. They would lose a little in the 'pure shooter' department with the departure of Barry, but this would be a group that fits Spurs Basketball to a T. If the Spurs offer McKie the remainder of the MLE then they would be able to offer the same level of contract that the Lakers have reportedly offered McKie. Defense Wins Championships plus I think Sprewell's scoring ability would help out significantly coming off the bench.

Sprewell is dumped on a little too much in the forum. As a starter logging 30+ minutes a night, yes, makes Sprewell unattractive. But coming off the bench for under 20 minutes a night would make him a great fit in SA. He's a great athlete.

Brown's minutes would be reduced, but his options are limited thanks to his restricted free agent status. Overall, this would give the Spurs a great swingman rotation and it would stay true to the Spurs' philosophy moreso than retaining Barry.

Sprewell? I don't care if he is better than everyone. I can't ing stand the guy. Just like T.O. can't ing stand him.

[j-6]

Where was Sprewell's clutch playoff...

How about when he threw the 8th seeded 27-23 Knicks on his back after the injury to star center Patrick Ewing and got them to the Finals?

34 year old Latrell Sprewell is better than 33 year old journeyman Brent Barry, guys. He's got some "Raptor" in him still.

[j-6]

marcus im going to have to disagree with you here

spreewell is not San Antonio Spurs material...

Glenn Robinson's ring finger will disagree with you the night of November 1st.

[Mr. Body]

34 year old Latrell Sprewell is better than 33 year old journeyman Brent Barry, guys. He's got some "Raptor" in him still.

Disagree with you there. Sprewell is a scorer whose game is predicated on slashing and getting to the hoop. Skills that decline rapidly as a player ages. Barry's game, predicated on passing and handling the ball, of which he's much better than Spree, as well as his outside shooting, where he's also much better than Spree, suits our second squad far better. Skills that happen to age pretty well.

The only thing Sprewell's better at, potentially, at this point in his career that could be of any use, is his defense. But he's not big enough for that to matter (won't guard long SFs with any skill).

Barry is clearly the better option for the Spurs at this point. Add Sprewell? Sure, maybe. But definitely not trade for him.

Oh, and having some 'Raptor' in him isn't really a compliment in this league.

[TheTruth]

Barry sucked hard in the playoffs. Only a homer would think otherwise. Pop had to yank his ass early in a couple of games.

I love how his minutes went UP in the finals. I agree with Body, give him more PT at the point (like they did in the finals) and he'll have a much better season.

[Spurminator]

[Dex]

[MannyIsGod]

I don't mind an addition of Spreewell to play off of the bench, but not at the cost of Barry.

[Walton Buys Off Me]

Yeah, let's go get Latrell Spreewell, the aging 8 point per game guy that doesn't slash, doesn't distribute, couldn't reliably hit the three if his family's 'welfare' (hint hint) depended on it. Latrell Spreewell hasn't been an affective player in four years and last year was the end of the road for this guy. There's a reason he's still out there on the market and we're at the end of August.

Brent Barry is going to be better next year. He was solid in game 7 of the Finals when it mattered most and with a year under his belt in Pop's system and the full trust of the coaching staff, the guy will be lights out for San Antonio.

No way I'd move Barry for Spreewell.

[Marcus Bryant]

Brent Barry has such great point guard skills that when Beno exhibited his deer in the headlights look in the Finals it was Manu and not Barry who Pop went to.

Eight points a game? That's Barry's forte...on a good day.

Remember how scared Barry looked like in the Seattle series?

If Devin Brown hadn't gone down with that back injury late in the season, Billion Barry would've been beaten out for a spot in the playoff rotation.

[MannyIsGod]

And if Spreewell hadn't been such a last year, Minny might have made the playoffs. And if Marcus Bryant didn't get stubborn with his ideas, he might see reason.

But somethings play out the way they do, and I'm not interested in a deal inolving Sprewell for Barry. You can sit there and say how much of a slam dunk it is, but I can counter everything you say with points you downplay because they don't support the move.

Barry picked up his game in the playoffs. You can saywhatever you'd like, but the stats improved, and the Spurs won. I don't see how removing him from the equation and putting someone in who has done nothing but decline in recent years would make the Spurs a better team.

I would not mind the addition, but not at the cost of Barry.