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    ElNostradamusNostradamus with the hurt bombs.

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    Good.

    I love Manu, but that's what he deserves for trying to press it. At least it appeared to him as mild discomfort on the treadmill and not a snapped ing ankle like George's that just sank the Pacer's hopes for the season.

    If Manu really felt like he was healthy and the Spurs restricted him from playing, he would have held a grudge. Now, he has to understand their decision 100%.

    Now Ginobili needs to focus on is resting, getting that leg healthy, and let's get ready to go for that first repeat.

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    Which side in the stress fracture on?
    I don't know. His right ankle hurts and his left foot hurts according to the article so take your pick.

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    Good.

    I love Manu, but that's what he deserves for trying to press it. At least it appeared to him as mild discomfort on the treadmill and not a snapped ing ankle like George's that just sank the Pacer's hopes for the season.

    If Manu really felt like he was healthy and the Spurs restricted him from playing, he would have held a grudge. Now, he has to understand their decision 100%.

    Now Ginobili needs to focus on is resting, getting that leg healthy, and let's get ready to go for that first repeat.
    This may be a slight blessing in that this tells him he needs to start getting in shape for the season earlier and probably slower so his body responds correctly.
    Rather than diving in and going through the season with a hundred nagging injuries from going into the season rushing his body.

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    The United States has the best medical care in the wold and its not even close. My brother-in-law suffered a punctured lung while vacation in Venice, Italy and his treatment was downright nightmarish and medieval.
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    He is gonna' continue to decline. I bet he doesn't make it the full season.

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    He is gonna' continue to decline. I bet he doesn't make it the full season.
    So what!
    A lot of players don't make it a whole season, and for that matter a of a lot of team centerpieces don't either, just look at Kobe.
    Moot point.

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    I love how he openly called out the Spurs but says nothing about the doctors who pretty much seemed to lie to him and tell him he was healed.

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    I love how he openly called out the Spurs but says nothing about the doctors who pretty much seemed to lie to him and tell him he was healed.

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    I love how he openly called out the Spurs but says nothing about the doctors who pretty much seemed to lie to him and tell him he was healed.


    he's lost all credibility tbh

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    I love how he openly called out the Spurs but says nothing about the doctors who pretty much seemed to lie to him and tell him he was healed.
    None of the doctors told him he was healed.

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    None of the doctors told him he was healed.
    He did say "pretty much". And I can agree they did say about as much. They said: you're good to go. What more do you want for "pretty much" than that?

    When they told him the reduced timeframe, though, we can agree that he didn't say they were untrustworthy in the media, though, amirite?

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    When they told him the reduced timeframe, though, we can agree that he didn't say they were untrustworthy in the media, though, amirite?
    I don't think he said any doctor was 'untrustworthy', in the media or otherwise. Link?.

    He did say he disagreed with the recovery timeline the Spurs doctor outlined for his injury.

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    He did say "pretty much". And I can agree they did say about as much. They said: you're good to go. What more do you want for "pretty much" than that?
    Link where they said "you're goo to go"? The NT team doctor (Grippo) said the results were inconclusive, that he was optimist they could do a special workout to get him ready for the Worlds... but he never said he was healed, AFAIK.

    FWIW, Grippo also said he wasn't worried about Manu since he has already played with that injury before. Don't really know if he meant with the Spurs or the NT (or both)

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    DPG21920 what are your thoughts on Sharknado 2?

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    Look, he said some very uncouth things about the Spurs or at the very least implied them. The fact he was using what the Argie doctors said to "fight" the Spurs decision means he felt the Spurs did something wrong. Then when he found out that he wasn't healed, he said "whoops! I guess I am injured". He didn't say, the Spurs were correct and it was the right decision. He had no hesitation throughout the entire process to cast doubt on SA, but never once did that on Argies.

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    Damn, he is one stubborn bas . The blessing and curse of Manu.

    It's why he can play as bad as he did in game 6 '13, and play as good as he did game 5 '14.

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    Thanks for posting

    im quite puzzled by the lack of informal communication between Manu and FO. I can't imagine a situation where a problem could occur between Manu and Spurs because of this participation. This interview sounds like a way out for Manu in front of Argentinean national media. That's weird.
    This was probably discussed with RC and Pop, maybe even Peter prior to speaking to that media source. They probably agreed that the Spurs would take the blame for Manu not participating... in agreement for him not participating.

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    Look, he said some very uncouth things about the Spurs or at the very least implied them. The fact he was using what the Argie doctors said to "fight" the Spurs decision means he felt the Spurs did something wrong. Then when he found out that he wasn't healed, he said "whoops! I guess I am injured". He didn't say, the Spurs were correct and it was the right decision. He had no hesitation throughout the entire process to cast doubt on SA, but never once did that on Argies.
    The mere moment that he received the news from the Spurs, he sought the advice of a third party doctor, not associated with the Spurs or the NT (barely mentioned in this article, but the specialist was in Chicago, and it's the one that told him to wait 30 days and do another study). The implication is obvious: He felt that both the Spurs doctors and the NT doctor had a horse in that race, and he wanted an opinion from somebody that did not. It was the right thing to do. That's why it makes no sense to pin some sort of 'distrust' only on the Spurs doctors when the same situation applied equally to the NT doctor.

    Ultimately, no doctor told him he was healthy. Which is really what triggered the Spurs making the decision that they did (thankfully, I wanted him to rest regardless)

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    This was probably discussed with RC and Pop, maybe even Peter prior to speaking to that media source. They probably agreed that the Spurs would take the blame for Manu not participating... in agreement for him not participating.
    We are way more aware of the day-to-day between the Spurs and the personnel that your average ARG basketball fan, tbh. That's why I agree with you, I think there's a good share of lip service in there.

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    We are way more aware of the day-to-day between the Spurs and the personnel that your average ARG basketball fan, tbh. That's why I agree with you, I think there's a good share of lip service in there.
    KL pulls out, Manu pulls out, Patty pulls out... KL can use the rest excuse, he's not the star player for this country, however the other two have a tougher row to hoe to get forgiveness from their countries.

    Kobe pulled out too but unlike the Spurs players, Kobe rejoined in the showers.

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    This was probably discussed with RC and Pop, maybe even Peter prior to speaking to that media source. They probably agreed that the Spurs would take the blame for Manu not participating... in agreement for him not participating.
    Probably something like that but again I don't understand why Manu would need to save face. Dude is 38 y/o he had an amazing run with his nt, he could just say it's too much. That's a lot of unnecessary bs IMO.

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    It sounds like Manu wanted an answer and instead of going into it with an open mind, he did everything he could to cast doubt and get the answer he wanted to hear.

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    Probably something like that but again I don't understand why Manu would need to save face. Dude is 38 y/o he had an amazing run with his nt, he could just say it's too much. That's a lot of unnecessary bs IMO.
    That is a rational sentiment. Unfortunately, he's rich, famous and successful. Argentina is undergoing a period of fairly nationalistic bull , including your run-off-the-mill socialist envy for the rich, famous and successful. Wouldn't take too long for certain media to pen a story about him opting for the hard-to-come-by US Dollar over the National Team. A complete fabrication for anybody that knows what Manu gave to the NT, but that was a while ago, and people has short memory.

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    It sounds like Manu wanted an answer and instead of going into it with an open mind, he did everything he could to cast doubt and get the answer he wanted to hear.
    Nothing on Sharknado 2?

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