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    I cant watch any games that I already know the results.. It takes away half the fun
    Huh...I LOVE re watching BIG games, I know they won. Great feeling, knowing how much I tortured myself, live....knowing I can just chill and smile, watching it over again .

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    This thread is crazy. Go back and watch the Spurs Game 6 vs Phoenix in 07 or their Game 2 vs Phoenix in 05 and tell me that wasn't beautiful basketball. There have been lots of teams who I have truly loved watching play. The 02 Kings with their incredible high post passing from Webber and Divac were great. The three-peat Lakers were a lot of fun to watch run the triangle, and they were even more entertaining in the Gasol era since he was an absolute perfect fit for that offense. Sure, you get plenty of ugly to watch teams like the 98 Bulls, 99, 03 Spurs, 04 Pistons, 08 Celtics winning too, but let's not act like this Spurs team is unique winning with style. But I will say the 14 Spurs were the most fun team of all-time to watch for me, with the 04 Argentine Olympic team being second.

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    This thread is crazy. Go back and watch the Spurs Game 6 vs Phoenix in 07 or their Game 2 vs Phoenix in 05 and tell me that wasn't beautiful basketball. There have been lots of teams who I have truly loved watching play. The 02 Kings with their incredible high post passing from Webber and Divac were great. The three-peat Lakers were a lot of fun to watch run the triangle, and they were even more entertaining in the Gasol era since he was an absolute perfect fit for that offense. Sure, you get plenty of ugly to watch teams like the 98 Bulls, 99, 03 Spurs, 04 Pistons, 08 Celtics winning too, but let's not act like this Spurs team is unique winning with style. But I will say the 14 Spurs were the most fun team of all-time to watch for me, with the 04 Argentine Olympic team being second.
    This is exactly what I mean. I just hope the Spurs can show me something better.

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    Watching other teams play, especially the more mediocre ones, just makes me feel sorry for their fans. There's so much selfish play, with occasional highlights from talented stars, but more often wasted possessions and silly bail-out shots. Compared to the Spurs, most of the rest of the league is playing D-League get-your-stats ball. I hope everyone else is paying attention to how the game should be played.

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    Of course I focus on watching Spurs games, but I still like watching other top western conference teams play each other ... Eastern conference is another story though

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    Typical NBA bandwagon fan: "If there isn't enough alley-oops or monster dunks is boring basket ball"

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    I'm a huge Leonard fan, but I can't really whole-heartedly disagree with that. Leonard was magnificent, and being at game 5, his impact could be felt throughout the building, but Manu was a beast as well. His dunk through traffic, his step-back 3 and his overall intensity after getting pushed around by Battier changed the momentum of that game.

    For the series their numbers were pretty close. Tough call. Manu probably could have gotten it in '05 over Timmy. Had they given it to Manu this year people could have argued for Leonard for the next several years like they did with the '05 award.
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    no he didn't

    I just rewatched the finals(up to game 4 so far)

    Manu was probably our 5th best player (Leonard, Duncan, Diaw, Green)

    If anything Green became a man during this series and needs more props. I won't be calling him 1 trick pony again

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    no he didn't

    I just rewatched the finals(up to game 4 so far)

    Manu was probably our 5th best player (Leonard, Duncan, Diaw, Green)

    If anything Green became a man during this series and needs more props. I won't be calling him 1 trick pony again
    His game 5 performance was incredible. Shot after shot, momentum changer. The Spurs were down big!
    What if...losing...game 6 in Miami...not easy.

    Not saying Kawhi didnt deserve it...but after watching the game I think its closer that I thought at the time. (right after the game).
    The Big 3 needed that Manu FMVP.

    Just my opinion.

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    I'm a huge Leonard fan, but I can't really whole-heartedly disagree with that. Leonard was magnificent, and being at game 5, his impact could be felt throughout the building, but Manu was a beast as well. His dunk through traffic, his step-back 3 and his overall intensity after getting pushed around by Battier changed the momentum of that game.

    For the series their numbers were pretty close. Tough call. Manu probably could have gotten it in '05 over Timmy. Had they given it to Manu this year people could have argued for Leonard for the next several years like they did with the '05 award.
    huge leonard fan too, but I think that Manu made a greater impact in several games. There were alot of games, where the starters just cant seem to make any basket or get a lead and in comes Manu, and suddenly the game blows open.
    I think one of the major reason why kawhi won the FMVP was because he was up against lebron. If Lebron was defending parker all game instead of kawhi, Manu would probably get the FMVP

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    I love Manu, but there is NO WAY he deserved the FMVP over Kawhi.

    Looking at old style stats, Kawhi shot 62% in the Finals. 62%. He outshot Patty Mills from beyond the arc, 57.9% to 56.5%. If you look at advanced stats, there isn't anyone close to him, except Mills. His Ortg was 136, and his Drtg was 101. What that means is for every 100 possessions he was on the court, SA outscored Miami by 35 points. Manu's numbers were 118/105.

    Kawhi Leonard was the best player on the court for the last 3 games, and LeBron James was on that same court.

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    I love Manu, but there is NO WAY he deserved the FMVP over Kawhi.

    Looking at old style stats, Kawhi shot 62% in the Finals. 62%. He outshot Patty Mills from beyond the arc, 57.9% to 56.5%. If you look at advanced stats, there isn't anyone close to him, except Mills. His Ortg was 136, and his Drtg was 101. What that means is for every 100 possessions he was on the court, SA outscored Miami by 35 points. Manu's numbers were 118/105.

    Kawhi Leonard was the best player on the court for the last 3 games, and LeBron James was on that same court.
    Let's not forget that Leonard did all of this WHILE primarily guarding James and doing a damn good job of it. James still got his, but he had to work his ass off for it (as evidenced by the cramps in Game 1, and the overall fatigue from Game 4 and 5).

    Those FMVP were highly influenced by the fact that Kawhi was the MVP on both the offensive AND defensive side of the ball, as well they should be.

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