Partisan

[Marcus Bryant]

The older I get, the less I care.

[Extra Stout]

Manny's definitely to the left...not boutons-left but solidly left.

No he's not.

Manny is libertarian.

And he definitely was right about how people oversimplify ideology by thinking it's one-dimensional, left-right.

There are multiple dimensions:

Socialist-----Capitalist
Secular-----Religious
Populist-----Corporatist
Dynamist-----Statist
Libertarian-----Authoritarian
Modernist-----Traditionalist
Collectivist-----Individualist

And there are many other spectra as well.

The only reason we think in terms of left-right is because we think in European terms. The concept comes from the French legislature.

[boutons]

You people don't have a ing clue.

Because I am vehemently anti-shrub/anti-Repug/anti-Iraq war, you moldy dildos conclude that I'm liberal, socialist, Democrat, pro-Kerry, pro-feminist, pro-abortion, communist, pro-terrorist, anti-American, anti-military, etc.

I'm actually pretty much don't-give-a- center, except when lives are being wasted.

[SWC Bonfire]

FYI, referring to the president of the US as "shrub" really makes you sound intelligent and by no means a raving, overly-emotional partisan bickerer.

You might want to leave that part out.

[JoeChalupa]

No more than calling Bill Clinton "Slick Willie"..
I myself refer to Bush as shrub or dubya sometimes but not out of disrespect but out of fun.

[j-6]

Or Bubba, for that matter. I at least thought shrub was slightly witty as a Jr. Bush comment rather than something out-and-out derogatory.

[Spurminator]

[boutons]

when he stops being dumber than plant, I'll stop calling him shrub

[boutons]

[Guru of Nothing]

The landscape of politics should in the very least be considered as 2 dimentional.

Left/right and up/down - As in, I'm above everyone else.

Here's a smiley for everyone who thinks I'm serious here.

Oh, and get a spellchecker Manny, it's dementia, not dementional.

[MannyIsGod]

dementia it is

[mookie2001]

[whottt]

Quote Usama Bin Laden:

I ask the American people to force their government to give up anti-Muslim policies. The American people had risen against their government's war in Vietnam. They must do the same today.

The term "useful idiots" has been attributed to Lenin, as a description of those mindless people in the Western democracies who would always find ways to excuse whatever the Soviet Union did.

"The GRU and KGB helped fund just about every antiwar movement and organization in America and abroad... What will be a great surprise to the American people is that GRU and KGB had a larger budget for antiwar propaganda in the United States than it did for economic and military support to the Vietnamese." - Russian defector Staanislov Lunev in 'Through the Eyes of the Enemy'(page 78).

[samikeyp]

when he stops being dumber than plant, I'll stop calling him shrub

Personally, I have no problem with nicknames like that but "dumber than plant"? Hmm..."Fire baaad!"

[Dos]

yeah for most your either a democrap or a repug...

[Nbadan]

There is partisanship because in almost every situation there are those who like to talk about what happened (Liberals - Nbadan,), those that like to pretend, but actually don't have a clue what happened (Republicans - Whott), and those who sit around and ask, What the just happened? (Manny)

[samikeyp]

yeah for most your either a democrap or a repug...

or demoncrat [yonivore/TRO]

[whottt]

There is partisanship because in almost every situation there are those who like to talk about what happened (Liberals - Nbadan,), those that like to pretend, but actually don't have a clue what happened (Republicans - Whott), and those who sit around and ask, What the just happened? (Manny)

No...it's that there are two types of people in this world essentially...those that want the right to be in charge of their own life...and those that think the world owes them something...

Those that think the world owes them something, in addition to being lazy...are dangerous because in advocating depency they give others the control over them, these people that gain control over them, are usually the type that want control over their own life, they just happen to want to control every one eles as well....

People that want control over their own life can instinctively recognize others that share this trait...they can also reconize is someone only wants control over their own life...and someone who wants to control everyones life...the people that want control only over their own life are constantly in enminity with those that want a handout...and those that want to control the lives of others as well as their own...that is why there always seems to be fewer people who want to control their own lives...becase a percentage of them want to control other lives as well...

When you look at these things in governmental terms...those that want a handout for doing nothing are a detriment to the ability of everyone to control their own lives...

[MannyIsGod]

The funniest thing in this forum is watching people proclaim themselves to be part of the "smart" or "right" group.

[JoeChalupa]

I'm conservative on some issues and liberal on others.

I don't vote straight ticket and probably flip-flop depending on what I know....or think I know.

[cecil collins]

Joe is the most frustrating poster. Most of the time, he might as well type, "Yeah, good point, I agree with everyone." I actually seen him express his own opinions, and original thoughts. I don't know how Whott expects us to believe he ever voted for a democrat, he is so far gone. You don't go around screaming anti-american, and try to retain the appearance of rational thought. As far as myself, I think Manny was closer in placing me in the "nuts" category(assuming I was lumped in to that). I only vote Democrat, when I must, but never vote Republican.

[whottt]

Joe is the most frustrating poster. Most of the time, he might as well type, "Yeah, good point, I agree with everyone." I actually seen him express his own opinions, and original thoughts. I don't know how Whott expects us to believe he ever voted for a democrat, he is so far gone. You don't go around screaming anti-american, and try to retain the appearance of rational thought. As far as myself, I think Manny was closer in placing me in the "nuts" category(assuming I was lumped in to that). I only vote Democrat, when I must, but never vote Republican.

Believe what you want...I am not a pro-lifer, religious, and in most world climates I am probably more worried about the environment than any other issue, that's why I am not one of the people ing about gas prices.


IF the Democrats have the better candidate I will vote for them...but I see them moving away from issues of importance to moderate Americans like myself, and catering more and more to extremists viewpoints....also, their attacks on the Bush admin are way out of line for when we are at war.

I would never paint myself into a corner of always voting for a politican, even a bad one, because of their political party...

[cecil collins]

I think the Democrats are still solidly moderate. There are more extremists within the US, and they had to ride Kerry as that was there hope to get rid of Bush. Gas is expensive, and I don't about it, but I'm not glad. Why must we be forced to utilize alternative forms of energy. Guess that's the way it goes.

[cecil collins]

I think the Democrats are still solidly moderate. There are more extremists within the US, and they had to ride Kerry as that was there hope to get rid of Bush. Gas is expensive, and I don't about it, but I'm not glad. Why must we be forced to utilize alternative forms of energy. Guess that's the way it goes.

[GopherSA]

I've never bashed Clinton, but I'd be happy to start. There's so much to bring up...where to begin?