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    Aggie...I hate to tell you this...but like every dictator and murderous regime of the past century...

    Saddam was a left winger, a Socialist...not an Islamist. He was about as much of a Muslim as Castro is a Catholic.
    Saddam made many speaches and interviews where he referred to himself as being the one to unite the Arabian province and re-establish a modern Mideastern caliphate.

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    "re-establish a modern Mideastern caliphate."

    but nobody believed it would be a ISLAMIC THEOCRATIC caliphate, as long as he was the "khaliffa".

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    Saddam has also aspired to be the next Nebbuchanezzar, and rule the new Babylon. Does that make him an idol worshipper or animist? He fancied himself as the re-incarnation of strong rulers. It had NOTHING to do with religion.

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    Aggie...I hate to tell you this...but like every dictator and murderous regime of the past century...

    Saddam was a left winger, a Socialist...not an Islamist. He was about as much of a Muslim as Castro is a Catholic.
    Can you spell Pinoche?

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    Can you spell Pinoche?

    can you or was that a joke?

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    A little bit of both.

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    I think the racism is from those who think that this is another case of white man's burden, and that these nations can't possibly be competent to decide and implement their own futures without our "help".

    That is the egotism of some Americans. They think they have to "save everyone", but I don't think that is the administrations intent, just a nice little justification.

    BTW, I don't like Kosovo, it was a propaganda war. Congratulations folks, you cant stop getting duped.

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    yeah i bet a lot of Tahoe driving W stickered neocons cared so much about the people of Iraq before Bush decided he was going to
    disarm Saddam
    err
    liberate Iraq
    err
    set up a foothold of democracy in the middle east
    err
    fight terrorism

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    yeah i bet a lot of Tahoe driving W stickered neocons cared so much about the people of Iraq before Bush decided he was going to
    disarm Saddam
    err
    liberate Iraq
    err
    set up a foothold of democracy in the middle east
    err
    fight terrorism

    Idiocy.... is all i can grasp from this comment. The sad thing is is that by stating what you posted you also have admitted to the fact that liberals wouldnt care about liberating Oppressed peoples even if there was sufficient reason like oppression and WmD's. In fact your way worse than the neocons you deride. You would let iraqi women get raped just so you could appease a savage dictator. And for what? ,So that he can break your ing treaties and rebuild his war machine till we then have to face a much dire crisis? Do you care more about feeling good about your false security than actual results? Should we as american's take fools like you seriously.

    You admitted to the fact by your anti intervention belief that you wouldnt do jack for our freedom or others. Let me ask you something? Did FDR intervene in WW11 to the plight of the jews??. Didnt FDR, and Harry Truman appease Stalin and call him in dearest terms "Uncle Joe". Stalin who's death toll of his citizens was 4x's that of Nazi Germany and who tried to make a pact with Hitler while we were figthing on the beaches of Normandy. The whole history of the Democrat party has always been on the side of Mass Murderers and Despots. FDR sent administration officials to italy to observe Mussolini's "admirable" govt so that we can emulate it. Jimmy Carter betrayed the "Shah" of Iran and let Iran become a despot and radical state which then cost us the lost our only arab ally in the ME, and then we were forced to help out Hussein stop ANti american Iran from seizing all the oil and threatening Sunni Suadi arabia. Till Reagan the Soviets amassed huge land mass for communism tricking FDR, Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, And Carter. it took Republican administrations to undue what the asses of the democrats made. Appeasement's greatest hero is Neville Chamberlian and Jimmy Carter. ANd thats nothing.

    We as americans do not need "useful idiots"(-the erm the soviets used to describe the left and the Media for apologizing for soviet atrocities.) for our islamo facist enemies. We need real policy's to deal with evil in our world. and if you dont believe in evil in our existence, you are lost.

    It seems Socialist, and American Liberals have no fundemantal principles or morals. Anything is righteuos so much as it serves to further the socialist cause. Even the destruction and ahnillation of the US would be rightheuous to them so long as it socialist prinicples prevail. People who further UN courts over the Cons ution have no place in america!

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    neocon taking the moral high ground?

    how...transparently pompous of you


    also comparing this bull to WWII and calling liberals socialists

    most original post of the year

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    The flaw in both conflicts was thinking that you could "give" someone democracy at all. It has to be earned, and you have to do it yourself. As an aside, it's funny to see the NeoCons now comparing this Iraq mess to SE Asia. Two years ago, there was no comparison and they were nothing alike, dammit! It's also sad to see the Iraqi forces turning out to be every bit as wussified and needing their hands held as the ARVN was. Will the joke of the new millenia be "Hey, need a rifle? Here's an Iraqi forces model, never fired, and only dropped once..."?
    Okay, my friend, how bout Japan, Germany, South Korea? They earned
    their democracy? As usual, you folks are wrong as two left feet. Bush is
    still President and will be for a few more years. Learn it, live with it...you
    lost we won......and are winning.....

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    Actually, spreading democracy is a very liberal concept and had the W administration approached the rebuilding of Iraq correctly, and prepared for the insurgency as many Generals recommended (before they summarily replaced with Yes-men by Rummy), and we didn't torture people in Iraq, who knows how this could have turned out?

    We lost control of the war when all those thousands of prisoners in Abu-Gharib and other prisons In Iraq went home and told everyone what happened to them.
    What drivel you put out. Things are 110% better there now than in
    before we went to war. Abu-Gharib was a killing factory before us.
    You are so wrong, as usual.....Bush is President now and will be for a
    few more years....live with it.....you lost we won.....

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    yeah anyone who doesnt love bush and agree with everything he does is just a sore loser
    get over it
    bush won
    he got the "greatest" mandate of all time
    get over it
    bush won
    the election

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    Aggie...I hate to tell you this...but like every dictator and murderous regime of the past century...

    Saddam was a left winger, a Socialist...not an Islamist. He was about as much of a Muslim as Castro is a Catholic.

    The Ba'ath Party and the RCC are both Socialist movements.


    And Saddam killed ing everyone...including other members of the Ba'th party, Sunni's and Shia's...

    He didn't embrace Islam until late in his career....and he only embraced it then because he saw the positive aspects of terrorism.

    But Dan...get off the ing crack you insane ...saying he was secular is like saying Stalin was secular, that doesn't excuse him from being a mass murderer. You're insane man.

    Well Whott, you actually do know what was going on in Iraq. I wished some of these other "blog" readers would learn a little history. But you have a long row to hoe, they have only one thing in mind: Hate Bush. But still
    they got to remember, he is President and will be for a few more years, for the second time......they are the losers and we are the winners.....

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    GET OVER IT
    Bush won

    dam sore losers
    get over it
    man!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    he won
    the election
    live with it
    stop whining

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    wasn't germany already a democracy?
    llllloooooooo, ever heard of Hitler? Like he was elected? Oh, never mind,
    you must be product of todays education system.

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    he was elected


    get over it
    Sore Loserman 2000

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    he was elected


    get over it
    Sore Loserman 2000
    OWNED xrayzebra. He won the last elections with more than 90% of the votes. I think he even got 99%.

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    he was elected


    get over it
    Sore Loserman 2000
    He was elected? Hitler? Better go back and read your history again, he
    was appointed. Suggest you look at this site: http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/

    Winner I am, I am. I support my country and my President. You can
    support your side: Clinton the cigar smoker(?), and Kennedy, the swimmer or Bird, the KKK man.

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    nice google, took you a while
    while it is up for debate
    he did run and win elections


    you support Leader W. Bush the greatest leader of all time and the strength, conviction and morals he stands for
    heard it before

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    nice google, took you a while
    while it is up for debate
    he did run and win elections


    you support Leader W. Bush the greatest leader of all time and the strength, conviction and morals he stands for
    heard it before
    Yeah, I don't live on here like some. Google I did. Just wanted
    all to know a little bit of history, real history not just what is being
    taught in schools now days. It is a little hard to put books on the
    computer so google is helpful on occasion, but reading is better. (hate to say it, but I was alive in those days too and living history sometimes distorts one's view) Oh-well,
    like I said; before, a winner I am, I am. We won, are winning and will
    continue to win. And for the poster who wanted to know who we is:
    Americans are who we is and we are winning. Those that want to put our country down are losing and always will be losers. And one thing most forget. We are a Republican type government. We only elect our
    representatives thru a democratic process, the representatives vote for
    you and me. Only California that I can think of off hand use the vote
    for many issues, which is a mess if you look at it.

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    Keith Jackson mookie2001's Avatar
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    you just made a crack about elpimpo being a product of todays educational system
    i thought that was funny because then he dropped knowledge on you
    personally knowing elpimpo...
    i would bet my life that he has a "better" education than you
    take that how you want






    We are a Republican type government.
    and with that im going to logoff

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    He was elected? Hitler? Better go back and read your history again, he
    was appointed. Suggest you look at this site: http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/

    Winner I am, I am. I support my country and my President. You can
    support your side: Clinton the cigar smoker(?), and Kennedy, the swimmer or Bird, the KKK man.
    Suggest you learn to read or read some more on the political system in Germany before WW2. He won the elections, but Hindenburg still had to, as the president of Germany, named him as Chancellor, prime minister or the one who selects the goverment. It was Mussolini who came to power without the elections, Hitler got elected or better said, his party got the majority.

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    saddam would garner 100% too.. anyone who voted against him was killed... don't you just love democracy!

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    Suggest you learn to read or read some more on the political system in Germany before WW2. He won the elections, but Hindenburg still had to, as the president of Germany, named him as Chancellor, prime minister or the one who selects the goverment. It was Mussolini who came to power without the elections, Hitler got elected or better said, his party got the majority.
    The theme of the thread is not about Hitler, but to humor you:

    Hitler's Rise to Power
    Once released from prison, Hitler decided to seize power cons utionally rather than by force of arms. Using demagogic oratory, Hitler spoke to scores of mass audiences, calling for the German people to resist the yoke of Jews and Communists, and to create a new empire which would rule the world for 1,000 years.
    Hitler's Nazi party captured 18% of the popular vote in the 1930 elections. In 1932, Hitler ran for President and won 30% of the vote, forcing the eventual victor, Paul von Hindenburg, into a runoff election. A political deal was made to make Hitler chancellor in exchange for his political support. He was appointed to that office in January 1933.

    Now back to original posting. Just always remember. Bush is President
    and will be for a few more years. Bye the way, this is a google again, so
    don't say anything bout it. Like I said, it is hard to be unbiased when you were
    part of the history. How bout those wonderful elections they had in those
    days? We are winners, we were always winners and always will be winners,
    in spite of alot of losers who cry about how bad a country we have. I love Texas and these United States.....hot weather and all. It would be really great without most of the dimm-o-craps......

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