Page 2 of 2 FirstFirst 12
Results 26 to 40 of 40
  1. #26
    I love craft beer. Sense's Avatar
    Location
    Austin, TX
    Post Count
    10,775
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    College
    Texas Longhorns
    Coaches cant get MVP's. You know this. Kobe will be an MVP before his career is over. He is too good not to be.
    .... I won't even answer to this.
    I dont think LBJ is the best player in the league. Kobe, TMAC, TD, Garnett and a few others are still better. LBJ will never be seen as an incredible player until the wins start coming. And they will this year, I guarantee it. No one will EVER be as good as Jordan, I will give you that. But combine LBJ athletecism, talent, at ude, work ethic, and age and you are gonna see one of a player in the next few years. The fact that he put up those numbers last year and is only 20 is scary. No player has ever been so good at such a young age.
    You still don't know what kind of player he is going to become. The all-stars in the NBA are trying to become Shaq, and Tim Duncan types of players. Players that can win, be unselfish, and make everyone else better. Lebron can also fall into the KG, Kobe, and TMac kinds of players. Those who have accomplished nothing by themselves.

    That's why I'm waiting, so far he looks like the KB, Kobe, TMac kind of player.. if he continues like that he won't accomplish much.

    But like I said, I'm rooting for him.

    Comparing LBJ to Carmelo is a disgrace. Put Carmelo in Lebrons position last year and he would have done worse than TMAC in Orlando. Carmelo has Andre Miller, KMartin, Camby, NeNe and a solid supporting cast. Wade is even lightyears ahead of Melo. Wade will also be a legit MVP candidate for years to come.

    I'm not comparing Lebron to Melo, I'm stating that Melo did better in the West than what he could've done in the East. Carmelo would've made the playoffs in the East last year. Carmelo did not have KMart last year, Nene has been an injury prune, and Andre Miller never seemed solid(IMO he shouldn't be a point).

    Lebron had good talent too. ZIllgauskas. Has only improved since Lebron arrived. He's looks like a top5 center in the East now. McGuiness late acquisition was key, and he was on a role..

    I'm not comparing Wade to either, I think Wade is a better player than Lebron right now, and surely ahead of Melo. Wade will not be an MVP Candidate until he starts over, without Shaq.

  2. #27
    PhillyGirl 1Parker1's Avatar
    Location
    East Coast
    Post Count
    16,374
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Kobe=3 rings, All defensive first team, most playoff experience, has shown clutch shooting

    Iverson=1 league MVP award, 2 AS MVP awards, 3 scoring les, plays on crappy team and averages 30 and 7, has shown clutch shooting

    T-MAC=Next to none playoff experience, 1 scoring le, has shown he can score 13 points in 35 seconds if needed ()

    Lebron= 2 AS appearances, 0 postseason appearances, 0 All defensive First team, has shown clutch shooting.

  3. #28
    I love craft beer. Sense's Avatar
    Location
    Austin, TX
    Post Count
    10,775
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    College
    Texas Longhorns
    Kobe=3 rings, All defensive first team, most playoff experience, has shown clutch shooting
    Playoff experience thanks to shaq, 3 rings thanks to shaq, he's a good defender.. ill give ya that. Clutch shooting, yeah he can shoot.


    Iverson=1 league MVP award, 2 AS MVP awards, 3 scoring les, plays on crappy team and averages 30 and 7, has shown clutch shooting
    1 league mvp award, I'm pretty sure LB had alot to do with that season. 2 AS MVP awards? This can pretty much be meaningless. 3 scoring les? Same.
    Plays on crappy team? If he used to be an MVP there shouldn't be an excuse for that. Averages 30 and 7? Still hasn't won a thing. Clutch shooting? I'd say 90% in the regular season.....not really more to that.

    T-MAC=Next to none playoff experience, 1 scoring le, has shown he can score 13 points in 35 seconds if needed ()
    .... ok.
    Lebron= 2 AS appearances, 0 postseason appearances, 0 All defensive First team, has shown clutch shooting.
    Clutch shootin?

    refresh my memory :P.

    Yeah Lebron has done squat.

  4. #29
    GAME OVER gospursgojas's Avatar
    Location
    San Antonio
    Post Count
    5,579
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Playoff experience thanks to shaq, 3 rings thanks to shaq, he's a good defender.. ill give ya that. Clutch shooting, yeah he can shoot.
    He and Shaq have the same ammount of rings since they split: 0 So you could make the same argument about Shaq.

  5. #30
    I love craft beer. Sense's Avatar
    Location
    Austin, TX
    Post Count
    10,775
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    College
    Texas Longhorns
    He and Shaq have the same ammount of rings since they split: 0 So you could make the same argument about Shaq.

    Shaq made the playoffs with a tied second best record in the NBA, and made the eastern conference finals... to a game 7.

    Kobe's team was a lottery one.

  6. #31
    GAME OVER gospursgojas's Avatar
    Location
    San Antonio
    Post Count
    5,579
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Shaqs done with...if he wins next year its only b/c they stacked the team for him, he better win. Kobe still has alot of basketball left in him. And I know someone who has been playing ball for his whole life isnt going to sit here and tell me shaq has more talent than Kobe....

  7. #32
    A neverending cycle Trainwreck2100's Avatar
    Post Count
    40,879
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    College
    Texas Longhorns
    Shaqs done with...if he wins next year its only b/c they stacked the team for him, he better win. Kobe still has alot of basketball left in him. And I know someone who has been playing ball for his whole life isnt going to sit here and tell me shaq has more talent than Kobe....

    He doesn't need more talent, he has a gargantuan ass and has used it his entire career.

    Shaq's ass>Kobe's talent

  8. #33
    GAME OVER gospursgojas's Avatar
    Location
    San Antonio
    Post Count
    5,579
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    He doesn't need more talent, he has a gargantuan ass and has used it his entire career.

    Shaq's ass>Kobe's talent
    haha that sadley is true.....

  9. #34
    I love craft beer. Sense's Avatar
    Location
    Austin, TX
    Post Count
    10,775
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    College
    Texas Longhorns
    Shaqs done with...if he wins next year its only b/c they stacked the team for him, he better win. Kobe still has alot of basketball left in him. And I know someone who has been playing ball for his whole life isnt going to sit here and tell me shaq has more talent than Kobe....

    talent?

    You have to define that.... Shaq is the better player.

    True Kobe might have alot of basketball left in him..... but knowing his past I'm sure he won't get anywhere anytime soon.

    Shaq has a few seasons left in him, and he might take advantage next season, the acquisition of the ego and talent...might screw that up for him.

    Then again it was his decision.

  10. #35
    GAME OVER gospursgojas's Avatar
    Location
    San Antonio
    Post Count
    5,579
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    talent?

    You have to define that.... Shaq is the better player.

    True Kobe might have alot of basketball left in him..... but knowing his past I'm sure he won't get anywhere anytime soon.

    Shaq has a few seasons left in him, and he might take advantage next season, the acquisition of the ego and talent...might screw that up for him.

    Then again it was his decision.
    Your telling me if Shaq was kobe's size he would win in a 1 on 1 game???

    Yeah I agree he better take advantage of this season coming up, and true JWill and 'Toine have been known to let their egos get in the way of them being a good teamate

  11. #36
    I love craft beer. Sense's Avatar
    Location
    Austin, TX
    Post Count
    10,775
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    College
    Texas Longhorns
    Your telling me if Shaq was kobe's size he would win in a 1 on 1 game???

    Yeah I agree he better take advantage of this season coming up, and true JWill and 'Toine have been known to let their egos get in the way of them being a good teamate


    Here's the thing... Shaq is not Kobe's size.

  12. #37
    GAME OVER gospursgojas's Avatar
    Location
    San Antonio
    Post Count
    5,579
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    True that...

  13. #38
    My Cousin Kobe Medvedenko's Avatar
    Post Count
    5,521
    NBA Team
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Sense...nothing but foolish conjecture....but that's your opinion....a poor one at that. Your argument that Kobe won't win a MVP and he rode Shaq's jock all those years show your immaturity and lack of knowledge of the game. Who the knows who will win the MVP..who cares...it's all about rings...

  14. #39
    GAME OVER gospursgojas's Avatar
    Location
    San Antonio
    Post Count
    5,579
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    Sense...nothing but foolish conjecture....but that's your opinion....a poor one at that. Your argument that Kobe won't win a MVP and he rode Shaq's jock all those years show your immaturity and lack of knowledge of the game. Who the knows who will win the MVP..who cares...it's all about rings...
    This coming from a Slava Medvedenko fan....

  15. #40
    I love craft beer. Sense's Avatar
    Location
    Austin, TX
    Post Count
    10,775
    NBA Team
    San Antonio Spurs
    College
    Texas Longhorns
    Sense...nothing but foolish conjecture....but that's your opinion....a poor one at that. Your argument that Kobe won't win a MVP and he rode Shaq's jock all those years show your immaturity and lack of knowledge of the game. Who the knows who will win the MVP..who cares...it's all about rings...

    I'm not being specific, it's more of facts overshadowing any type of excuse. I know the game... I answered to what everyone is talking about, if it's about a possible MVP, I'll answer. You don't have to read my opinion or question it if you don't want to... I understand you're Laker fan, but jumpin into what I'd think 80% of NBA fans would also believe is plain stupid.

Thread Information

Users Browsing this Thread

There are currently 1 users browsing this thread. (0 members and 1 guests)

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •