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    It's all relative, .
    brilliantly meaningless!

    I've always said human "inalienable" rights (and in USA, they are not human rights, but American citizen rights, while non-citizens are pretty much ed) don't exist unless governments enforce them. Govts NOW violate, not guarantee, them.

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    I wouldn't hold my breath. The government likes to kill people. It's the only thing it's good at.
    No, it's pretty good at taking our money, too.

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    This is a very old problem painted in a new light by technology:

    The rights of the individual v. the good of the whole
    It's a bit more complex than that.. The rights of an unaffiliated hostile stranger vs. the good of an entire nation.

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    It's a bit more complex than that.. The rights of an unaffiliated hostile stranger vs. the good of an entire nation.
    Sorry you don't have the ability to see the big picture.
    Of course it is complex, but it's nothing new.

    Some people with a working nervous system have the ability to see relationships.
    The rights of an unaffiliated hostile stranger... So you have already interviewed and found the problem before any act was committed. The CIA/FBI needs you immediately. How do you accomplish such feats of detective work? Do tell?

    This poster is new to me, is he really serious?
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    Sorry you don't have the ability to see the big picture.
    Of course it is complex, but it's nothing new.

    Some people with a working nervous system have the ability to see relationships.
    The rights of an unaffiliated hostile stranger... So you have already interviewed and found the problem before any act was committed. The CIA/FBI needs you immediately. How do you accomplish such feats of detective work? Do tell?

    This poster is new to me, is he really serious?
    Serious, dyed in the wool, fringe of the fringe right wing ideologue and proud.

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    Serious, dyed in the wool, fringe of the fringe right wing ideologue and proud.
    I think he is more than that. Let's try daft.

    The problem is clearly how deeply to intrude into an individual's rights in order to find the bad guy.
    This is a difficult problem that surely even a conservative could appreciate.
    This poster just flippantly ignores the aforementioned and assumes a terrorist wears a sign posted on his forehead.
    That we can magically just identify the bad guys without some sort of information gathering process.

    The rights of an unaffiliated hostile stranger


    Wtf? So unaffiliated hostile strangers just turn themselves in as unaffiliated hostile strangers?
    ... accidental ball pen hammer to the temple...

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