Devin.

**Rescueone** · 08-31-2005

Originally Posted by DesiSpur_21

Yeah - that was real ugly times for fans....

Thank god Webber and Kidd deal didn't go through

AMEN!!!

**Solid D** · 08-31-2005

Originally Posted by DesiSpur_21

Yeah - that was real ugly times for fans....

Thank god Webber and Kidd deal didn't go through

That's why 2001 was such a pivotal summer leading up to a championship 2 seasons later. There was the Derek Anderson fiasco where the Spurs thought they had a deal for $42M plus incentives with DA, Pop and others went to Timmy's wedding in the islands, then boom, DA and his agent gets all strange and forces a sign-&-trade scenario (for one more year but less money).

The Spurs tried to court the big FA dangling out there in Webber, then ended up being capped-out after signing David as their FA for 2 yrs. and $10M per season. They were forced to "make-do". So they 1) parlayed their genius draft pick Parker, who started 6 games into his rookie season and 2) incredible recruitment of Bruce Bowen for $750K, plus 3) sprinkle-in summer league signee Stephen Jackson into that mix with 4) David and what did they end up with? The starting lineup with 5) TD for the 2003 Championship Team.

Amazing.

**Kori Ellis** · 08-31-2005

Why would Devin be in trouble for missing required workouts at the practice facility? Isn't it against the rules for teams to practice together during the offseason?

**silverandblackreign** · 08-31-2005

Not as a team. Pop asked Devin to come in to work out solo, and show that he is recovering, getting stronger, better etc.. Devin did not show up, and there were also some scheduled meetings with Pop that Devin did not show up to. Anyway - the team has ben working out together (conditioning) for the past 2 weeks (not at the practice facility though)

**DesiSpur_21** · 08-31-2005

Originally Posted by Solid D

That's why 2001 was such a pivotal summer leading up to a championship 2 seasons later. There was the Derek Anderson fiasco where the Spurs thought they had a deal for $42M plus incentives with DA, Pop and others went to Timmy's wedding in the islands, then boom, DA and his agent gets all strange and forces a sign-&-trade scenario (for one more year but less money).

The Spurs tried to court the big FA dangling out there in Webber, then ended up being capped-out after signing David as their FA for 2 yrs. and $10M per season. They were forced to "make-do". So they 1) parlayed their genius draft pick Parker, who started 6 games into his rookie season and 2) incredible recruitment of Bruce Bowen for $750K, plus 3) sprinkle-in summer league signee Stephen Jackson into that mix with 4) David and what did they end up with? The starting lineup with 5) TD for the 2003 Championship Team.

Amazing.

Not to forget getting Steve Smith's expiring contract just in time to clear cap space for future Manu/Parker signings

**Kori Ellis** · 08-31-2005

Interesting.

Well I don't think they can require free agents to show up for anything in the summer. But it doesn't help Devin's cause if he's being an ass though.

**timvp** · 08-31-2005

I bet this is pretty accurate.

It makes sense if you are Devin. If you go out there and don't perform perfectly, the Spurs will use that against him in negotiations. If the Spurs miss out on Finley, Devin is pretty much now their only choice. James Jones and Maurice Evans are gone.

I'm guessing the Spurs' third option is Matt Barnes, but that's a rather large drop off from the first two options.

**CubanMustGo** · 08-31-2005

Well, good luck, Devin. I hope your back is healed, and you get the chance to show what you can do with another team. A team besides Phoenix, that is.

**Kip Fanatic** · 08-31-2005

It would stink if Devin went to Phoenix and killed us with like a 30+ points on his first return here to S.A

**timvp** · 08-31-2005

Devin in Utah would be great for everyone. He can be a huge addition and a starter for the Jazz.

**Rescueone** · 08-31-2005

Originally Posted by Rescueone

If this is true, might be a true sign that Pop knew all along that Finley has chosen the Spurs. CIA Pop at work??

See what did I tell ya boy

!!!!

**silverandblackreign** · 09-01-2005

You mean........what did I tell YOU.

Next Up - Devin to Utah.

**rwb** · 09-01-2005

Sometimes agents screw their own clients, and I think Devin's agent has been blowing smoke up his ass instead of trying to work out the best deal for him. Any team is going to be wary of Devin's back injury, and instead of going for more than anyone thinks he's worth right now, Devin needs to be getting into a deal that will give him some kind of future. We all know that Devin's always had great potential, but now he needs to prove himself as someone's who's really healthy and is going to play all out like he used to. Dodging workouts and avoiding Pop is not the way to do it and I'd be willing to bet his agent is the one telling him to do it.

**Vashner** · 09-01-2005

Like I said.. Disk disease does not go away.. ever.. you can cut it. you can fuse it.. but you can never 100% fix it.. NEVER.. (I have 8 bad disks well disks with no goop in the middle).

**Big Pimp_21** · 09-01-2005

Originally Posted by Big Pimp_21

"I think Finley will go to Phoenix"....bull ! Pop is saying that just like he said he didn't know Van Exel was coming to town until he bumped into him at the airport. I think Finley signs here and Pop knows it.

See

**Rescueone** · 09-01-2005

Originally Posted by silverandblackreign

It looks like the spurs are going to let him walk. He is asking all this money from them, but he is not working out at the gym when he is scheduled to be, and has missed several scheduled visits / meetings with Pop. I dont know who they will replace him with - just that it is not looking good for him to be in silver and black next year. Looks like it will be Utah......

This is the start of your topic!

**silverandblackreign** · 09-01-2005

ok - that was meant to read between the lines. I was not going to come out and tell you the Spurs are signing Finley. Not really my place to divulge that info on a chat board.

**Rescueone** · 09-01-2005

Originally Posted by silverandblackreign

ok - that was meant to read between the lines. I was not going to come out and tell you the Spurs are signing Finley. Not really my place to divulge that info on a chat board.

Ok. got it....U da Man!!

**CaptainLate** · 09-01-2005

Originally Posted by Solid D

Summer of 2001 was when David re-signed for his final 2 years. Pop called Chris Webber to try to entice him to come to SA but Chris reportedly never got back with Pop.

Webber later said he didn't return the call because he was afraid Pop would be able to convince him to leave. Thanks for not returning the call, Chris. Enjoy Philly because you won't get embarassed by TD anymore.

**CaptainLate** · 09-01-2005

Originally Posted by Vashner

Like I said.. Disk disease does not go away.. ever.. you can cut it. you can fuse it.. but you can never 100% fix it.. NEVER.. (I have 8 bad disks well disks with no goop in the middle).

Vashner, check out www.GetADR.com

**sprrs** · 09-01-2005

Originally Posted by Devin Brown

"If you see guys get minutes and you're just sitting there and you're OK with it, there's something wrong with you."

That quote kinda soured me on Brown. I understand that he's young and he wants to play, but that doesn't fit into the mold of the Spurs. Robert Horry said as much:

Originally Posted by Robert Horry

"I've been on some teams where guys who think they should be playing become cancers, then it affects the morale of the team and that's not a good thing."

I dunno if he was vocal about his lack of minutes or whatever but I still wasn't a fan of that at ude, and I wasn't all that dissapointed when Pop said if we get Finley we're not getting Brown

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