honestly, i don't know anymore.. if we could trade parker for monroe and keep cojo for 5M, that would be a very strong young core onto which you could think playoffs right away.. i'm not sure keeping parker when we won't be competing, makes any sense after this season..
I think that ship likely has sailed now that Smith is gone in Detroit. I think part of the reasoning there was to send Monroe a message that a big deal was there for the taking - he probably signed the qualifying offer because he saw the logjam ahead of him with Smith.
sure, but even with just drummond, he isn't a perfect fit with him. Then again, it would be a three way deal, sign and trade monroe to spurs, trade parker to a contender and detroit would get some other kind of compensation.. entirely doable imo, still doubtful it happens, and anyway i meant after the season, surely we keep our players this season.
The problem for Monroe is that he's an average defender as a center, and terrible as a PF. So even though they unloaded Smith, I could still see Monroe leaving as a free agent. I'm sure he'd love to stay in the post and have a PF beside him who can defend Stretch 4s-- his weakness.
the problem with monroe is that his wingspan combined with his vertical if i remember correctly, is not good enough for considering him a legit defensive center prospect. However, with tiago and diaw, i can totally see him perfectly good by just guarding his man, defend the pnr and crashing the boards. Not much of weak side blocking for sure, but with kawhi, green, cojo and tiago, not much is needed.
Monroe reminds me too much of Brook Lopez or Al Jefferson-- good numbers, points, little defense, lots of losses. If he was a sleeper and could be signed for ~$7 mil, it'd be one thing, but his price will be too high I think.
This forum is so sensitive.
When he's healthy it's no contest.
when he's healthy he is really the ONLY real pg. The other two are better suited to other roles.
Actually, I agree with whoever it was who said that Manu is actually the best pg on the team, but he is not a pg and doesn't want to be one. Cory is more of a pg than Patty, but Cory is not as quick or as talented a shooter as Patty.
If someone could combine Parker's fearlessness in the paint and superior ability to run the Spurs' offense, Patty's energy and quick-release three point shot, and Cory's sheer determination, you could probably create a league MVP.
We lucky Spurs fans just have to accept having the characteristics spread among three players, and be thankful they are all on our team.
Cool, another thread to bump in spring...
He is the only true PG on the Spurs roster tbh
I've always praised Cojo since day 1, but he is a combo guard better suited to come off the bench.
Mills is a really a 6 footer SG.
Pretty much says it.
Mills is not a point guard. The majority of the time the ball is in Ginobili's hands in the half court
Tony is the worst if not tied for the worst PG defensively.
On offense, he has to be at 100% effectiveness, which I've seen maybe once or twice this year, to add more to the offense than does the spacing Mills provides. Game 5 Mills is without question the best player at the 1 spot on offense that we have.
Boxscoregeeks agrees with me about Patty FWIW
This forum is a joke... Tbh
Run by 10 years old kids trolling all the way down..
Kori,,Timvp, Bruno, myself and few others are just missing the old time where intelligence and BB IQ were a high standard for the greatest nba forum never made for a team.
Now it became th worst.... What a pity...
^^ What's funny and ironic is that none of the pro-Parker posters have actually presented an argument in his favor, tbh
Reputation and resume only takes you so far..Father Time isn't kind, tbh..
One thing that your parents should have taught you before anything is RESPECT. Saying that TP, Manu or others players just are , is a total disrespect for what they have accomplished so far and still. The regular season just started and you are already spitting on some players. Most of the actual NBA teams will love to have these players but you seem to believe with complete nonsense stats that these players are making it bad. So not based on resume or reputation, just imagine the actual Spurs with these 5 starters (Tiago, cojo, kwany, green, Baynes)and bench with Diaw, mills, Anderson.... Around the 11 seed somewhere like that....^^ What's funny and ironic is that none of the pro-Parker posters have actually presented an argument in his favor, tbh
Reputation and resume only takes you so far..Father Time isn't kind, tbh..
And by the way, if you already have listened to Pop, this team success is about chemistry, a fine mix with old and new players.. It is not about a star, even Timmy is saying it since 11 years now.. It just mean that you do not understand a about what the Spurs are!!!
I also always praise his career, he was a monster in 2012-2013, one of the great individual runs for a PG..
I'm not a player-fan, though, unlike so many of you..I put the Spurs first, and I recognize when a player is on the decline, even a top-10 all-time Spur like Parker..
Nando is the best!!!!!
But lol!!!!! How can you say that you are a real Spurs fan. I cannot imagine what guys like you will have said 2 to 4 years ago when Timmy was having knees and weight problems, when Manu was completely washed and tony not able to run the team. 7 years after their last championship they made it again in 2014, 7 YEARS after the last one. And YOU can say when a player is in decline or not??? What a joke! You really did not learn anything about the past. And by the way, do not get me wrong, I am not a pro TP fan, I just cheer all the Spurs players and I feel so lucky to be a fan for this team since 15 years that still have such a success. Just look around you in others nba teams forum, they are all supporting their players even if sometimes their team or players sucks but they are all looking at the Spurs organization and team as the best one in the last decade and still continue...
I also always praise his career, he was a monster in 2012-2013, one of the great individual runs for a PG..
I'm not a player-fan, though, unlike so many of you..I put the Spurs first, and I recognize when a player is on the decline, even a top-10 all-time Spur like Parker..
But this thread isn't disrespecting Tony Parker..if anything, it's showing love to Patty Mills and Cory Joseph, 2 other Spurs..
Why am I supposed to support TP and his decline, but not show support to Patty and Joseph?
Considering the fact that he remains the only spur who can consistently run the spurs offense with his 13 years of experience (do y'all seriously want to roll the dice on Cojo, Patty, and Manu at PG? They're great backups, but none of them are actual point guards), and considering his loyalty to the franchise (taking a deep discount to resign in SA several times and the fact that he wishes to retire with the franchise), and considering the depth the spurs have at PG with Parker/Cojo/Patty (but lack without Parker), and considering that the spurs are in "win-now" mode for what may be Manu and TD's last season, I'm not sure how anyone could seriously argue for trading Parker for scraps. His value might be lower now than it was in the past, but he's still extremely valuable, particularly when you consider his discount contract. Certainly, he's more valuable to the spurs right now than any potential asset they might gain by trading him. All I can say is I'm glad RC and Pop are running the franchise and not spurstalk
I still think starting Parker and bringing Mills off the bench is best tbh, as Cojo and Mills are still mostly one dimensional.
but if you're doing legit offense-defense subs utions at the end of a game
And even if he's marginally better on both ends that Mills/Cojo his c
Trading Parker would be a terrible panic trade. Only player I would trade him straight up for would be D-Lil. Parker is overrated in terms that the system and players hes played with have hid many of his basketball flaws. Ive always wanted to trade Parker but hes been here way too long, knows way too much and is still young enough to give him the benefit of the doubt he can still be great.
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