What do you mean? The Spurs would have to take back the same amount of salary. So you would want to pay DerMarr over $4M a year?
Well, the only reason I mentioned him was financial reasons.
What do you mean? The Spurs would have to take back the same amount of salary. So you would want to pay DerMarr over $4M a year?
Barry, Beno, Rasho to the Hawks for a first round pick and one of their young prospects.
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BS Barry has seniority over finley and NVE
Barry did 400% more than rasho in the finals and 340% more than BENO
wtf is this trade barry talk
if we trade him i will be pissed to no end, and i wasnt even a barry fan this past season, but after seeing him in the playoffs i was convinced
there was a reason Barry was in the rotation the entire playoffs and the entire finals
CIA Pop remember? The guy has skillz...
Devin being hurt helped a whole lot.
The Spurs wouldn't have to sign him for $4 mil.
Hey folks, great news.
This year we don't have to trade anyone.
No one.
Not a soul.
So unclench and revel in the fact that if anyone not named Duncan gets hurt, were going to be fine.
How many teams can say the same?
We can go on and on about whom to sign next, but you have your team now, before September. These are the guys who are going to play, period.
Pop a cold one, toke up -- whatever. There are no holes. No needs. Any trade from here on out is just going to cut future payroll at the expense of our present depth, so be careful what you wish for.
I'm more interested in whom the Toros are going to sign now -- they're going to see more PT than anyone added to the Spurs now. , those Spurs might just be playing up here anyway.
Are you going to go to Toros games? Do you want me to try to get you press credentials for any games that you are going to?I'm more interested in whom the Toros are going to sign now -- they're going to see more PT than anyone added to the Spurs now. , those Spurs might just be playing up here anyway.
It looks like I will be here for the duration, so I'll be going to most every game I can. I'll PM about the details.
If the Spurs hold this roster for the year, I'd be happy.
But I know how Holt works. I'm not looking forward to cutbacks.
The summer still has some drama to come
P.S.
Karaulov and Sanikidze on the Toros would be awesome.
Trade rasho = a scrub center
wang zhi zhi?
http://www.hoopsworld.comThe trade that has been mentioned is trading Eduardo Najera for Brent Barry. The Spurs initial asking price was an expiring contract, but are said to be high on Najera if they can get a second round pick to be included in the trade. Najera would add another strong defense presence on the Spurs roster, while Barry would give the Nuggets a more versatile shooting guard than they have had since drafting Carmelo Anthony. In fact the Nuggets last season were rumored to be very interested in acquiring Barry while he was a free agent but ultimately lost out to San Antonio. Both contracts are very similar and expire in the end of 2007-2008 season. The only issue holding up the trade is Kiki's concerns over whether or Barry can be effective (he is turning 35 this season), and whether or not he wants to give up box office draw Najera and a second round pick for Barry. Expect Nuggets Head Coach George Karl have a big input in this move. If Karl thinks that Barry would be a better fit in the locker room which would lead to more wins, then he might lobby intensely for the Nuggets to make this move. In either case, expect Barry to be dealt soon as he wants to have more playing time. The run and gun style of the Nuggets would fit him perfectly.![]()
By the way, many people are aging Barry by a year or two. He's 33 right now. He'll be 34 on Dec 31.
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looks like barry will retire here
HoopsWorld sucks!
Barry for Najera.
Hmmmm ... although Hoopsworld just pulled this out of their azz, it makes a little bit of sense. Najera would be the new fan favorite and provide the Spurs another big.
His contract isn't the greatest but the Spurs have liked him for a long time and the trade would even out the roster.
Then again, the chances of a Hoopsworld trade rumor coming true is less than a Spursdaone trade rumor.
Yeah, we haven't had a Malik Rose type since, well uh, Malik Rose.
Now can we find any takers for Rasho? I'd love to get another, more aggressive reserve big in return. I'm sure the Spurs don't want to carry his large salary for the entire year.
Getting Najera would be ing sweet. It would complete the circle of the Spurs getting guys I have hated but whose game I admire. NVE, Horry, Finley, Najera. Damn.
Combined with Bruce, we would be by far the most hated team in the league. I like it.
I am not on the Finley bandwagon yet...I think the guy is seriously over-rated...I think he is going to have a major struggle playing reduced minutes...I think he's going to have a problem with it...
On top of that...I think Finley takes a lot of bad shots and makes a lot of dumb turnovers....he's got awful handles and always has...
Not sold on Finely being a championship key yet...I predict the Mavs won't miss him in the slightest.
As for Barry...
Barry was our entire guard-SF rotation for the playoffs last year...not Beno, not Bigg Dogg, not Devin Brown...
Barry may not put up a lot of points but he doesn't make stupid plays or turnovers and when he does take a big shot he usually makes it...
This is not true for Finley...Finley has never scared me as an opponent...never, not once....Finley getting the ball late in the game has never rated a big measurement on the whottt clutch scale...unlike Nick the quick, who has always rated very highly...
It does make sense to move Barry due to age and contract, but only if we are certain that Finely is who we want, but what happens if Finley doesn't want to return?
And Najera would be a nice pick up...but I don't consider him a need.
I hope the Spurs hold off on trading Barry...our biggest needs were a long SF and scoring punch...NVE takes care of the scoring punch...Finely doesn't do anything to fill those long SF needs IMO....he basically duplicates Barry's skills only he is much more willing to take a crappy shot or make a ty pass...and he's not going to defer to guys he should be deferring too as much as Barry does...
In short....Finley has to prove he can be a role player...I don't think he can do it yet. Over-rated and overkill on this team.
If that happens, guess what, he doesn't play. It's that simple.I am not on the Finley bandwagon yet...I think the guy is seriously over-rated...I think he is going to have a major struggle playing reduced minutes...I think he's going to have a problem with it...
On top of that...I think Finley takes a lot of bad shots and makes a lot of dumb turnovers....he's got awful handles and always has...
Again, use commonsense, why would the guy sign here if he didn't want to play a smaller roll, get less minutes. Do you think Pop offered him the starting job? No. o you think Pop promised him mintues to the moon? No.
Finley knew he'd get more minutes in Phoenix, Minny, and even Miami. But he still signed here.
Of course he was, Beno isn't even a small forward. Devin was injrued the entire post season (had he not been, Brent would have taken a backseat to him), and Big Dog was new and in the second round had a death in his family with took him out of any rotation he had been in before.Barry was our entire guard-SF rotation for the playoffs last year...not Beno, not Bigg Dogg, not Devin Brown...
What? Where you not around during the entire... I dunno... season? Barry had his worst year ever. He couldn't hit . Even in the playoffs, but for maybe 3 or 4 games, he stunk it up as well with his shooting.and when he does take a big shot he usually makes it...
You do know Finley shot a lot better at the 3pt line than Barry last year.he basically duplicates Barry's skills only he is much more willing to take a crappy shot or make a ty pass...
I don't want any trades either.
Barry/Finley
Nazr/Rasho
Beno/Van Exel
Let the battle for minutes begin!
Barry also made his share of careless turnover (the extra pass with good intentions) and he was a liability on defense. But he is a very smart player and, as you've stated, he came up big in some games during the run.
Having watched Finley here in Big D for several years, there is some credence to those criticisms of Finley. He's got a bad handle, can't create his own shot and will take bad shots. I worry about the flow of the offense with him because he doesn't pass well - never has.
I was unaware that he shot so well from 3 pt line. I only hope he'll have a good year with us.
Well...
Finley over Brent
Nazr over Rasho
NVE over Beno
See, it's that quick and easy.
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