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    Did you just off yourself?

    please say it ain't so

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    As long as Kirby doesn't ring

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    no, he can't.

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    sook who is this morsel?

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    Why are people still dicussing Kobe and the Lakers' on-court strategy, tbh?

    They're a circus show, they aren't trying to win games..you would have to be really naive to think otherwise..

    When Kobe isn't shooting 25 times per game, they are one of the most unwatchable teams in the league, so hopefully he reverts to shooting a ton, much better for the product..
    Its actually fun when Lakers can take teams into the clutch. If he shoots alot hes if he passes hes not entertaining. Hurr durr

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    That's the thing that is so frustrating. The Lakers can be a better team if Kobe can get in line and start to contribute, but he has so far refused to do that.

    But then again, he has been doing that for 19 years, so I guess I shouldn't have expected him to par down his chucking and actually think about the team first.

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    The guy dropped 17 dimes and shot 50% on the field and they still lost to a team riding a 6 game losing streak. Some people just lack common sense.

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    To be fair, like 8 of his assists are Hill 18-20 footers. Dude is in 2012 WCF Abaka form
    Did Kirbs have 17 assists or was it the bull Faker scorekeeper stat padding half of them?

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    sook who is this morsel?
    Disgusting.

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    That's the thing that is so frustrating. The Lakers can be a better team if Kobe can get in line and start to contribute, but he has so far refused to do that.

    But then again, he has been doing that for 19 years, so I guess I shouldn't have expected him to par down his chucking and actually think about the team first.
    Criticisms on Kobe shooting too much and not getting his teammates involved enough consistently has some merit. But it's not really the main root of the Lakers losing problems. The Lakers are bottom 2-3 in the league in points allowed, opponents FG%, and opponents 3P%. As seen last night, even when the Lakers play well offensively, they still struggle to beat teams. Their team defense is preposterously horrific.

    It's not that Kobe can't or shouldn't play more like he did last night, where he passed the ball when he was supposed to and take smarter and a reduced number of shot attempts. But he played well last night and they still lost to a team riding a long losing streak. You have to also look at where the other major problems are at. One of those major problems is quite clearly the defense.

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    Criticisms on Kobe shooting too much and not getting his teammates involved enough consistently has some merit. But it's not really the main root of the Lakers losing problems. The Lakers are bottom 2-3 in the league in points allowed, opponents FG%, and opponents 3P%. As seen last night, even when the Lakers play well offensively, they still struggle to beat teams. Their team defense is preposterously horrific.

    It's not that Kobe can't or shouldn't play more like he did last night, where he passed the ball when he was supposed to and take smarter and a reduced number of shot attempts. But he played well last night and they still lost to a team riding a long losing streak. You have to also look at where the other major problems are at. One of those major problems is quite clearly the defense.
    The Lakers play better on defense with Kobe off the floor as well. He just isn't trying, which is frustrating to watch.

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    If you find her disgusting, why do you have her in your sig?

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    Kobe is averaging a league leading 9.6 TOs (per 36) in the 4th quarters this season. The next player is Hardon at 5 Tos


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    Their team defense is preposterously horrific.

    It's not that Kobe can't or shouldn't play more like he did last night, where he passed the ball when he was supposed to and take smarter and a reduced number of shot attempts. But he played well last night and they still lost to a team riding a long losing streak. You have to also look at where the other major problems are at. One of those major problems is quite clearly the defense.
    Of which his defense is the worst on the Fakers.

    As to his chucking O vs his stat padding assist show games, it does matter.
    Where/when one shoots does affect when the teams transition D starts from if the other team gets the rebound and thus is on O.

    Kirby leaves his teamates with terrible transition D placement along with himself oftentimes standing around pouting over the no call from one of his bricks. (like virtually every time he misses). This creates a 5 on 4 advantage for the other team. 3 on 2, 2 on 1, whatever.

    The on floor stats clearly point out his suckage on chuck nites. Yet, on the games he has so obviously gone into *Magic* mode the Lakers are doing much much better. Won a few of those games, i think even over .500.

    His upchuck games they are abysmal, like .150 winning %.

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    The Lakers play better on defense with Kobe off the floor as well. He just isn't trying, which is frustrating to watch.
    Doesn't change my point. The fact that they go from horrible with Kobe to awful without him on defense doesn't mean defense isn't clearly a much bigger factor in their suckitude. And sure, Kobe is a big part of that. He's not the only part of it. Their team defense as a whole is god-awful. Let's not pretend that the Lakers all of a sudden turn into even an average defensive team without Kobe. They don't. They may be better. But better than awful doesn't mean good. The defense is a bigger problem than what Kobe does offensively, but the vast majority of comments about Kobe/Lakers is about Kobe's chucking on offense, not his defense, not the team's defense.

    It was a poignant game last night demonstrating the bigger root of their losing ways, particularly late in the 3Q and into the 4Q. They couldn't get stops, even without Kobe. Late in the 3Q when Kobe got subbed out, the Lakers were up 1 point. When he returned midway through the 4Q, the Lakers were down 11. The Lakers got outscored in that roughly 9 minute stretch 22-10. You can't put that stretch of the game on Kobe since he was on the bench. And that stretch was really the difference in the game. I know it's just one stretch of one game, but it illustrates the point.

    Kobe had a pretty unselfish and efficient night offensively and I believe the Lakers as a team shot 50% from the field and they still lost. The team defense more than anything has been by far the worst problem they've had this season.

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    Doesn't change my point. The fact that they go from horrible with Kobe to awful without him on defense doesn't mean defense isn't clearly a much bigger factor in their suckitude. And sure, Kobe is a big part of that. He's not the only part of it. Their team defense as a whole is god-awful. Let's not pretend that the Lakers all of a sudden turn into even an average defensive team without Kobe. They don't. They may be better. But better than awful doesn't mean good. The defense is a bigger problem than what Kobe does offensively, but the vast majority of comments about Kobe/Lakers is about Kobe's chucking on offense, not his defense, not the team's defense.

    It was a poignant game last night demonstrating the bigger root of their losing ways, particularly late in the 3Q and into the 4Q. They couldn't get stops, even without Kobe. Late in the 3Q when Kobe got subbed out, the Lakers were up 1 point. When he returned midway through the 4Q, the Lakers were down 11. The Lakers got outscored in that roughly 9 minute stretch 22-10. You can't put that stretch of the game on Kobe since he was on the bench. And that stretch was really the difference in the game. I know it's just one stretch of one game, but it illustrates the point.

    Kobe had a pretty unselfish and efficient night offensively and I believe the Lakers as a team shot 50% from the field and they still lost. The team defense more than anything has been by far the worst problem they've had this season.
    You can't really deflect the blame to the defense when statistically he's the worst defender of the bunch though. That just doesn't make sense.

    They're not a le contender regardless of his style of play but it's pretty clear that they're a better team when he does play the right way.

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    I didn't deflect any blame. Kobe's defense is part of the problem on defense.

    My point is that DEFENSE in general is a huge problem with the Lakers, but most people talk about Kobe's offense. That's it. There's no deflection.

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    The criticism has been aimed at his approach to the game though, not at his inability to make the Lakers a le contender. I think it's widely accepted that the ceiling of that roster isn't very high. But bad roster or not his approach this season has been a disgrace to the game...he's sabotaged his team's ability to reach whatever low ceiling they did have.

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    The Cavs defense was god awful. Most of his assist he just walked down to the top of the key, made a simple pass to a wide open teammate and his teammate hit a jumper. More then half of his assists he didn't even break the defense down, he just made one simple pass.

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    Doesn't change my point. The fact that they go from horrible with Kobe to awful without him on defense doesn't mean defense isn't clearly a much bigger factor in their suckitude. And sure, Kobe is a big part of that. He's not the only part of it. Their team defense as a whole is god-awful. Let's not pretend that the Lakers all of a sudden turn into even an average defensive team without Kobe. They don't. They may be better. But better than awful doesn't mean good. The defense is a bigger problem than what Kobe does offensively, but the vast majority of comments about Kobe/Lakers is about Kobe's chucking on offense, not his defense, not the team's defense.

    It was a poignant game last night demonstrating the bigger root of their losing ways, particularly late in the 3Q and into the 4Q. They couldn't get stops, even without Kobe. Late in the 3Q when Kobe got subbed out, the Lakers were up 1 point. When he returned midway through the 4Q, the Lakers were down 11. The Lakers got outscored in that roughly 9 minute stretch 22-10. You can't put that stretch of the game on Kobe since he was on the bench. And that stretch was really the difference in the game. I know it's just one stretch of one game, but it illustrates the point.

    Kobe had a pretty unselfish and efficient night offensively and I believe the Lakers as a team shot 50% from the field and they still lost. The team defense more than anything has been by far the worst problem they've had this season.
    And yet kobe was the worst of their defensive issues. You know why I know? Because it's apparent and has been talked non stop around here.

    People talk about his chucking because it's hilarious, but people also talk about his absolutely awful defense.

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    man, you guys gotta stop analyzing the Lakers' on-court performance..they're a team that is built to tank..

    Kobe is having a historically bad season, but even if you removed him, these Lakers wouldn't be any better than the 3rd worst team in the West.. , even removing Kobe, they still have 2 of the worst players in the NBA handling the offense(Young and Lin) and the worst coach in the NBA..

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    sook who is this morsel?
    Jaime Koeppe/

    Strange Love BrHornet

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    Criticisms on Kobe shooting too much and not getting his teammates involved enough consistently has some merit. But it's not really the main root of the Lakers losing problems. The Lakers are bottom 2-3 in the league in points allowed, opponents FG%, and opponents 3P%. As seen last night, even when the Lakers play well offensively, they still struggle to beat teams. Their team defense is preposterously horrific.

    It's not that Kobe can't or shouldn't play more like he did last night, where he passed the ball when he was supposed to and take smarter and a reduced number of shot attempts. But he played well last night and they still lost to a team riding a long losing streak. You have to also look at where the other major problems are at. One of those major problems is quite clearly the defense.
    I 100% agree TBH

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