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    I wonder if that rumor about Barry to the Warriors for Pietrus (and a trade exception?) stuff is lined up to go down when Finley has his physical and the signing is wrapped up.

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    I dont get it ... keep Barry + resign devin, have an almost unstoppable onslaught of talent on the wing positions... sure, your a couple of mil over the luxury tax - but im pretty sure thats peanuts compared to having good lockerroom presence, outstanding talent, and FINALS APPEARANCES!

    gah, holt!

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    I wonder if that rumor about Barry to the Warriors for Pietrus (and a trade exception?) stuff is lined up to go down when Finley has his physical and the signing is wrapped up.
    Barry for Pietrus would be a great move for the spurs. Besides Brown + Pietrus > Barry.

    You see, that is what i am talking about. Great project, nice addition, great salary, 11 years younger than Barry and french to be partner of the supposed spurs future, Parker and the overseas project, Mahinmi.

    It seems San Antonio might be looking for a french future.

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    I wonder if that rumor about Barry to the Warriors for Pietrus (and a trade exception?) stuff is lined up to go down when Finley has his physical and the signing is wrapped up.
    Where did that rumor originate? I know it was on Hoopsworld, but anywhere else?

    I had read that they Warriors were trying to trade Fisher (in a 3 team trade) but the Spurs weren't mentioned in the rumors.

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    I'd prefer the Spurs to stay how they are, but it'd make more financial sense if they trade away Barry and re-sign Devin. Rasho will also be traded ... if he can. And like the Barry move, it won't be a move to improve the team.

    This is the Holt era.

    Deal with it

    Can you honestly say there is much to about in the Holt era??

    Seriously...

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    Can you honestly say there is much to about in the Holt era??

    Seriously...
    I'm not ing. It's called preparing for how the ownership and the front office will react. Everyone is saying that the Spurs should stand pat ... but the Holt Era dictates that won't happen.

    Get it?

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    I get it.

    But IMO they will win the ring either way.

    Stand pat or trade Barry and sign Brown.

    IMO signing Brown and trading Barry is a plus.

    You lose a SLIGHT bit of versatility, but it gets you younger than you were the year before.

    I dont blame ownership for not wanting to pay the luxury tax, smart business.

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    Barry for Pietrus would be an amazing trade for the Spurs...

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    Where did that rumor originate? I know it was on Hoopsworld, but anywhere else?

    I had read that they Warriors were trying to trade Fisher (in a 3 team trade) but the Spurs weren't mentioned in the rumors.

    Kori, if Barry for Pietris is a possible treade, what's your opinion of it?
    Would we keep Devin?

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    Where did that rumor originate? I know it was on Hoopsworld, but anywhere else?

    I had read that they Warriors were trying to trade Fisher (in a 3 team trade) but the Spurs weren't mentioned in the rumors.
    Yeah, I believe I heard it came from Hoopsworld but I never found out what the original source was. We all know how reputable Hoopsworld is so take it for what it's worth I guess.

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    To me trading Barry from a team value perspective, is stupid. He's propably our most versatile player and our best 3P shooter. He does so many things for this team and even though Van Exel and Finley are here, he would still have a role here with the Spurs.

    Brown IMO is very expendable. I like the kid and his game but there are hundreds of guys like him out there just as good and athletic. Not many Barry's out there though.

    I can see it from a financial point that trading Barry for an expiring contract or maybe draft picks would be better for the cap, but IMO Barry will be a important player off the bench for us and he will brings experience and leadership. You can't say that about Devin.

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    He's propably our most versatile player and our best 3P shooter.
    Most versatile player is Manu.

    Best 3pt shooter is Finley.

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    You must be kidding me with Finley over Barry? I will agree on Manu. But Barry's the best 3P shooter on the Spurs team and probably a top 5 in the league.

    Barry has been known for years to be one of the leagues best shooter.

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    You must be kidding me with Finley over Barry? I will agree on Manu. But Barry's the best 3P shooter on the Spurs team and probably a top 5 in the league.
    Would you like to compare their numbers from last year?

    Because Finley > Barry in three point shooting.

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    Last year

    Michael Finley: 40% 3pt shooter.

    Brent Barry: 35% 3pt shooter.

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    To me trading Barry from a team value perspective, is stupid. He's propably our most versatile player and our best 3P shooter. He does so many things for this team and even though Van Exel and Finley are here, he would still have a role here with the Spurs.

    Brown IMO is very expendable. I like the kid and his game but there are hundreds of guys like him out there just as good and athletic. Not many Barry's out there though.

    I can see it from a financial point that trading Barry for an expiring contract or maybe draft picks would be better for the cap, but IMO Barry will be a important player off the bench for us and he will brings experience and leadership. You can't say that about Devin.
    I agree.

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    IMO Barry better than finley for verstaility, ball handling and movement. but finley have some good points for him physic and aggressive... it is pretty much balance between the 2.
    but finley is coming a year and a half younger and half the price. cutting the luxe tax.

    without slary cap you keep him. but if you play by the rule as spurs do you have to send him.

    Finley plans to play more than 20mn a night
    manu and bowen 60 let 36 minutes open for finley and a young prospect being devin/barnes...

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    Pal, you need to look at the career stats when you look at stats. One season isn't enough to measure who's better. It's known around the league Barry's one of the best, it's not just me.

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    I would say Nazr is expendable. Serious. His contract is up. He makes 6 million. His stock is up. If Im the Spurs front office, Id trade him. Rasho plays better defense. Rasho has better hands. Rasho plays better with Duncan. And the Spurs have Oberto signed. If any trade is in the works, I would say Nazr is expendable. Next up will be Barry. Udrih, I dont think they will be looking to trade him cause his contract is dirt cheap. No point trading off a backup PG with talent for draft picks.

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    Pal, you need to look at the career stats when you look at stats. One season isn't enough to measure who's better. It's known around the league Barry's one of the best, it's not just me.
    Well, when you're asking who the defending champ is, you tell them who? You say the Celts because they've won the most.

    When you ask who's the MVP, you tell them who won it last. Now who has the most.

    And you said Barry was a better three point shooter. Last year he wasn't, so you can't say he is unless he shoots better than Michael this year.

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    So with your thinking I wouldn't be off by saying that Jason Richardson is a better offensive player then Duncan because he averaged 21.7 ppg and Duncan had 20.3 ppg. To me that's not right and hopefully I have changed your mind on this.

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    Rasho plays better with Duncan
    No he does not.

    Rasho defers wayyyy too much to Duncan.

    Mohammed, when given the ball, takes it to the rack and shoots it.


    So IMO Rasho is more expendable than Mohammed.

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    If a deal for the expedable players can be worked out, that would be ok but there will be an almost certain loss in talent and depth. This Pietrus business sounds like Rasho for Atlanta's young stars and draft picks: pie in the sky.

    If we're able to do something with a team like Toronto for guys like Aaron or Eric Williams, Lamond Murray, et.al. -- non-core guys with small and/or expiring deals -- that would likely be a best-case scenario.

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    So with your thinking I wouldn't be off by saying that Jason Richardson is a better offensive player then Duncan because he averaged 21.7 ppg and Duncan had 20.3 ppg. To me that's not right and hopefully I have changed your mind on this.
    If Jason Richardson avg. more than Duncan, then yes, he's a better offensive player than Duncan. There are a lot of players in the NBA that are better offensively than Duncan. But none of them are as dominate as Duncan.

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    Well ok, we won't agree on this topic. Hey, that's why I post here, different opinions.

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