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screw playing time, after finley gets a ring, he'll want more jack...that will be Devin's time to shine as Bruce will start gazing towards the rafters where they'll put his jersey.
Anywhere but Utah, I would have liked to have followed Devin closely and supported his team when they aren't playing the Spurs, but Utah? Not going to happen.
screw playing time, after finley gets a ring, he'll want more jack...that will be Devin's time to shine as Bruce will start gazing towards the rafters where they'll put his jersey.
Yeah, it's worth it to keep Brown around. It would not be surprising if the Spurs 'replace' Barry with Brown.
I realize the taxes from all teams will be equally distributed to all teams even if the team paid taxes but the Spurs FO based on history is reluctant to spend any kind of tax or penalty. If the Spurs do add another player be it Devin or a rookie they will be the 13th or 14th player on the roster and chances are not even be on the playoff roster. So based on the Spurs FO history and spending I dont see the distribution of the tax dollar playing a role in their decision to pay a minimum of $3million dollars in taxes for a non playoff player.
I agree I think the only way Devin remains a Spur is if Barry is traded and the Spurs receive less salary back and clear cap space for Devin.
I'm always amazed at how some people can blithely say that an owner should lose a few million bucks just so one of their favorite players can be on the team, especially when the player would be getting very marginal minutes.
Obviously if it was their own money they were talking about, the decision might be different. Cuban spent millions, putting the Mavs into the luxury tax bracket and didn't get as good a result as the Spurs good management.
Did Holt Cat pay for the full cost of the SBC Center? Thank you. I'm amazed you seem to think he did.
Also, we're ing customers. We're allowed to . The Spurs have an unprecedented opportunity to win multiple additional championships over the next 2 to 3 seasons. Tim Duncan isn't going to play forever.
Win now.
Worry about Holt Cat's money later.
Actually some info here is incorrect. While each team receives some distribution of the luxury tax payments, the teams under the threshold receive a full share while the teams over do not. It is rumored to be about $3M in difference. So to sign Devin to a $2M deal- costs the $2M in salary, plus $2M in luxury tax, plus a loss of about $3M in distributions. I don't think the Spurs will spend $7M on him. Now, of course, anyone we sign basically will cause us to lose out on the $3M so they will be reluctant to spend anything on anyone who may not even suit up. But the Spurs knew that signing Finley would put them in this position, and I think they thought the loss was worth it to get him. Which is a slight change in FO practices. They could still try to trade Barry or Rasho for monetary relief, but if they can't, they know they are stuck for now with luxury tax.
I believe you are correct.
http://danrosenbaum.blogspot.com/
1.The luxury tax will be dollar-for-dollar on spending above the 61.0% of BRI luxury tax threshold (just below that used prior to 2004-05), except that the new deal guarantees that the luxury tax will be triggered in every season of the deal. [Note that in 2004-05 the threshold was at 63.3% of BRI.]
2.All teams (including those who pay tax) under the new deal will receive a full share of the escrow tax collections. The most likely distribution of the luxury tax appears to be a full share to teams below the luxury tax threshold with the remainder being split evenly among all teams. This is likely to result in teams losing about $3 million in distributions in 2005-06 (more in later seasons) if they end up being taxpayers.
Last edited by mcdunk; 09-02-2005 at 12:01 PM. Reason: correction to post
I agree.
I'm still lighting a candle that DB will stay a Spur. He's the hometown boy, and besides that he is talented.
Nazr > Devin
The Spurs can't afford to lose a starting center. Especially for a guard who's a role-player on a team stacked with swingmen. They're not going to find a taker for Rasho. Holt has to cut this corner so he has some kind of flexibility to bring Mohammed back. It's just not worth it when the team already has Ginobili, Bowen, Finley, and Van Exel able to play Devin's position and play it better.
The Spurs will still have to trade Rasho before extending Nazr. DBrown's couple million aren't going to be the deciding factor in whether Nazr can get extended.
Actually, it might take Rasho and Barry to get traded to free up that type of room ... not to mention to produce a package that a team would bite on.
As it stands they're looking at being maybe $4.5-$5 million under the tax threshold for 2006-07. Asking Holt to go $2 million over the tax to bring him back is asking a lot less than asking him to go $4 million over the tax, costing him $6 million in penalties versus $2 million.
To me it's obvious that Brown cannot be brought back unless the Spurs have Barry moved already for an expiring contract. No other scenario makes sense for the Spurs financially.
They are going to need more than that to re-sign Mohammed.
The threshold will take another jump next season as the % they base it on is going up again per the new CBA.
I doubt Barry gets moved, so more than likely Devin is gone.
Adios Devin. Good luck in Utah.
Spurs really missed the boat by not resigning Devin.
As much as I hate to say it I agree. They need Brown to guard Wade. Finley is a terrible defender so he will get embarrased whoever he guards.
No ing allowed. Just be happy to write your check and praise the goodness of all the powers-that-be. Anything else is disloyal to your team.
More seriously, unlesss a team under the cap is willing to pick up Brent, the Spurs don't save any money by trading Brent and then matching Devin's offer. They'll spend more by whatever Devin's contract is for.
Yeah, going with Finley was a terrible move. So how does one procure a banner with the screen shot of Finley in a Heat uni?
i'm sure one will be available soon on EBay.
The Heat were lucky not to sign Finley. They should go after Damon Jones. It's not like they need him but he would make it even more an advantage of Miami over San Antonio.
It's to your advantage not to take score i guess. In fantasy land everyone is right, even the worst poster of all-time.
Meh, I think it's a good thing for Devin to go elsewhere. I think he wants the minutes and the exposure, and the back thing is still uncertain (I know what the docs are supposedly saying). I think they made an investment in Barry for a reason, and we saw it at the end of the season. I expect that Barry will be back, and Devin can continue to mature on someone else's dime.
Barry will need to be replaced in a couple of years, and Devin's contract with Utah will be up then. The Spurs can really gauge if he's worth more money or not then. Also, imo, Devin is in a bit of a greener grass position. He's played with the winning team for two years now, but not with great minutes or exposure. Utah is not likely to be a winning team (they may make the playoffs, they may not, if they do, I don't expect miracles), but Devin will get exposure and play-time. Then he can make an informed decision about whether or not he wants to cut his minutes for more rings.
Unfortunately, the best thing for Devin is to go to a team where he will get more minutes than it looks like he'd get here.
Pop is gonna be pushed to see that this loaded team gets enough minutes to keep everyone sharp and happy. I know Van Exel and Finley realize now that they're on the bench--but wait til they get DNP'd a few times in Pop's murky and puzzling rotation.
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