Monroe: Finley's signature seals Brown's fate

[ChumpDumper]

can not the spurs bluff and say they will match then jazz pull the offer and then do a sign and trade

I heard that but not sure it is true

Technically it's possible, but i've never heard of it actually happening.

[CubanMustGo]

The Jazz offered Brown a contract that calls for $2.5 million this season and a second season for slightly more money, though the second year is at the Jazz's option. With former Dallas Mavericks All-Star Michael Finley signing a contract on Friday with the Spurs that will play him $2.675 million this season, and veteran big man Sean Marks soon to re-join the club, the Spurs' payroll has nudged past the tax threshold. Thus, matching Brown's $2.5 million would, in fact, cost them closer to $5 million. Additionally, Finley is a guard-forward combo player, as is Brown.

Real easy to castigate someone for not wanting to spend $5M for a DEEP bench player with a questionable back, especially when it's not your money. Sorry, MB, can't go with you on this one. SA is not a rich franchise, and Holt is not one of the Maloof brothers or Paul Allen (not to mention you-know-who in Dallas). $5M is serious money to this team.

[marcus]

Brown is not worth 2.5 millons

[wildbill2u]

Is Devin worth 2.5 million to this team--or any team--at the far end of the bench?

All but one other team passed on making him an offer, even after we won the Finley lotto. Perhaps our appraisal of him is biased because he's a local boy making good.

It's good for his career to move to a team where he'll get more minutes. Let's not let our fan enthusiasm cloud our judgement. Do we want to stifle his career growth just to keep him on the squad? That's very selfish.

At 6'5" he's not exactly right for our future SF. We need to keep looking.

[marcus]

I say Utah is stupid to offer Brown that deal especially when they have Gerald Wallace available.

[Ghost Writer]

Wallace certainly has more raw talent than Brown, but Devin plays tighter defense and is a better shooter.

Wallace had every opportunity to establish himself on the lowly Bobcats and fizzled in my opinion. You can't just me a swingman who dunks.

Walace's upside is greater, but brown is a lot more dependable, which is classic Utah form.

[team-work]

I don't think keeping Devin was on the top 5 or even 10 priorities of the Spurs FO this off-season.

[ObiwanGinobili]

I refuse to accept this or comment on it untill the Spurs announce thier decision.

[bigzak25]

obvoiusly i'll defer to Pop & Co. when it comes to personell decsisions, but i will say i'm dissappointed to lose Devin. I can only imagine that either his back is worse than we think or that Pop was not thrilled with his partying ways. oh well, goodluck Dev.

[spurschick]

I don't think it needs to be about the money. I'm not Pop, but I don't see how much playing time he can get with the Spurs and playing time is definitely something Devin needs to show that his back is fine and to re-prove his value. Plus, he's such an energetic guy - he would be wasted on the deep bench. The offer with Utah is only for 2 years. Bruce and Finley are going to be looking at retirement around that time. I don't see why Devin can't eventually come back to SA.

[Aggie Hoopsfan]

Jesus people, you are all calling out Pop and Holt for not wanting to spend 5 mil on the 12th man with a questionable back?

Look, I like Devin but have some freakin' perspective.

Plus, it's not like he is signing a 6 year deal. It's one year with an option for the second. So the Spurs let him go when they don't have any PT, he goes and gets experience, proves his back is okay, then we can revisit a more experienced, healthy Devin Brown down the road.

[bigzak25]

The offer with Utah is only for 2 years. Bruce and Finley are going to be looking at retirement around that time. I don't see why Devin can't eventually come back to SA.

that's a great point. he gets some cash, some playing time, and will have the chance to come home when Fin is long gone and Bruce is about ready to hang it up....

AND the Spurs get to see just how good he is and how healthy he can stay, thus his Market Value shoud be clearly determined by that point...the only lose is IF Dev becomes a SupaBalla...but if that happens, so be it...Dev is the man.

[MannyIsGod]

Also, for all you know Devin could be asking them NOT TO match. He wants to play. That is important for him in the future as well.

[jdelar03]

I am just glad that the Spurs never straight screw there players and are usually honest with them. I would not be surprised to see Brown back after a year or two. Once he has had some time to grow and gain some good plAying experiance.

[juncan]

The Jazz offered Brown a contract that calls for $2.5 million this season and a second season for slightly more money, though the second year is at the Jazz's option.

I don't think the Jazz could have team option in the second year, the new CBA says "Offer sheet" can't include any option year.

Offer Sheets must be for at least two seasons (instead of three), not including any option year, unless the player’s prior team gives the player both a Qualifying Offer and an alternative offer of a “maximum” contract, in which case the Offer Sheet must be for three or more years (not including any option year).

http://www.insidehoops.com/nba-colle...greement.shtml

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

It's called him not getting any other offers.

ur kidding right? Dj has more upside than Brown, Brown still has that injury cloud over his head.. DJ is close with a couple of guys on the Nuggets and he was happy to stay for the minimum, if he had chosen earlier on that he wanted more money, i guarantee that some team would have snapped him up for about the same as what Brown is getting.......

i just guess on a team like the Spurs it would be harder for brown coz he wouldnt get many minutes if he stayed, DJ on the other hand will get 15-20minutes a night in Denver.....

would Brown stay in San Antonio if he knew he would have got more minutes? even if it was for a lesser amount? It sounds like he is pretty high on San Antonio

[BadlyDrawnBoy]

ur kidding right? Dj has more upside than Brown, Brown still has that injury cloud over his head.. DJ is close with a couple of guys on the Nuggets and he was happy to stay for the minimum, if he had chosen earlier on that he wanted more money, i guarantee that some team would have snapped him up for about the same as what Brown is getting.......

i just guess on a team like the Spurs it would be harder for brown coz he wouldnt get many minutes if he stayed, DJ on the other hand will get 15-20minutes a night in Denver.....

would Brown stay in San Antonio if he knew he would have got more minutes? even if it was for a lesser amount? It sounds like he is pretty high on San Antonio

Dude, if Demarr got a high money offer, he'd have signed it. How old are you that you don't know this is a business. If Demarr was such a better player than Devin, why didn't he get one offer? He didn't, so he signed for the min with the Nuggests. Please don't make this into one of those "he really loved the city, and the team, and the players, and the police, and the dog walkers, so he stayed for millions and millions less" things.

[NuGGeTs-FaN]

Dude, if Demarr got a high money offer, he'd have signed it. How old are you that you don't know this is a business. If Demarr was such a better player than Devin, why didn't he get one offer? He didn't, so he signed for the min with the Nuggests. Please don't make this into one of those "he really loved the city, and the team, and the players, and the police, and the dog walkers, so he stayed for millions and millions less" things.

of course its a Business , everyone knows that but it doesnt mean everyone has to be greedy as (eg Spree).........he is good mates with Kmart, it was alot to do with kmart that got him to Denver. After his bad car accident, dont you think he would just be happy playing again?.....Not everyone is greedy, just look at Finley, he chose a better chance at a ring over money and DJ chose Denver over more money. If you try and tell me that no team would have offered more than th miimum for him, then you need to lay off the

[exstatic]

Not everyone is greedy, just look at Finley, he chose a better chance at a ring over money and DJ chose Denver over more money.

Fin already has the luxury of 51 million reasons why he could choose less, thanks to Cuban. I am realist enough to know that if he were starting from zero dollars, he would have gone to Miami for the full MLE.

It IS all about the Benjamins. If you haven't realized it yet, you will. Players follow the money trail at all times as long as they feel they can get the money.

[Sec24Row7]

I find people's incessant rants about what a cheap operator Holt is to be pretty stupid considering the money that he and his co-owners HAVE spent has brought 3 championships to this city in 7 years with the possibility of getting more.

Either you are Stupid, or are acting that way.

Neither makes you look good.

[marcus]

It would be great if we could do a trade of Nesterovic and Barry for Harpring, Giricek and Collins.

We say that if they agree to that deal we let Brown walk.

Moreover a trade could also help Utah and San Antonio as well as we would get like 1,5 millons free in cap space, we would get younger and fill every position of the roster. And then we could sign Dajuan Wagner with the rest of the LLE.

[Sense]

It would be great if we could do a trade of Nesterovic and Barry for Harpring, Giricek and Collins.

You like to smoke the chronic right?


That's an awful trade.

[Marcus Bryant]

Finley and NVE are Spurs for one season. Keeping DBrown around makes plenty of sense.

And as long as Holt Cat and friends need to go to the public and ask for a subsidy, you are ing right that I am going to point out when they are being cheap.

How many NBA ownership groups would have a problem paying a little extra to ensure that a legend like Tim Duncan has the supporting cast he needs now and tomorrow while he's in his prime to win more les. You're right, I don't give a how much $ he makes.

What's stupid is having Holt Cat's nuts on your chin. Hopefully losing Brown over short term $ won't come back to hurt this team.

[ducks]

is not finley's deal 2-3 years?

[Sec24Row7]

Holts nuts on my chin?

Because I dont blame a business owner for wanting to make a profit?

Some of you need to stop paying money on spurs merchandise if you are working hand to mouth and dont realize how the world works.

You are lucky that the spurs are even IN San Antonio.

THAT is their act of charity. They aren't going to lose money just to field a winner. What happens then when timmy retires? When IS their time to make money?