Stout, are you serious about this or just venting?
i've been a productive member of the u.s. for a long time. PRODUCTIVE, not a burden.
Stout, are you serious about this or just venting?
Wow. You're a very special human being, Clan.
This is just plain wrong.
For the sake of argument....what if all of the sudden the aquifer ran dry. and you started asking for help and you heard people saying it is your fault for living in a city with no above ground resource. You had plenty of chances to create reservoirs, etc.
On a second note I have read that Bush was not the only one who overlooked/denied (whatever you want to call it) the problem. The city of New Orleans and the state of Louisiana has been asking for funds to reinforce/repair the iinfrastrucure. his problem goes back 30-40 yrs. so don't put hte whole blame on Bush, he just continued the problem.
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productively evil
yeah for liberals and the left... history started the day bush took office.. they forget that they were other adminstrations who also passed over the levy issue...
Excellent point. And I guess by Clandestino's line of reasoning, those people in New York deserved what they got for working in tall buildings. And the firefighters shouldn't have been in that line of work. Etc. And of course, we've already heard the "Casey Sheehan shouldn't have been in Iraq if he didn't expect to get killed" bull .This is just plain wrong.
For the sake of argument....what if all of the sudden the aquifer ran dry. and you started asking for help and you heard people saying it is your fault for living in a city with no above ground resource. You had plenty of chances to create reservoirs, etc.
Just gives the term "compassionate conservative" a real grounding in fact, doesn't it?
I don't think that's what anyone is saying. They are saying that all this partisan "it's Bush's fault thousands are dead, NO is flooded" bull is just that - bull .Excellent point. And I guess by Clandestino's line of reasoning, those people in New York deserved what they got for working in tall buildings. And the firefighters shouldn't have been in that line of work. Etc. And of course, we've already heard the "Casey Sheehan shouldn't have been in Iraq if he didn't expect to get killed" bull .
Just gives the term "compassionate conservative" a real grounding in fact, doesn't it?
RIF, Aggie. That's exactly what KKKlandestino is saying, that it's their fault and they deserve no help. What a POS....I don't think that's what anyone is saying. They are saying that all this partisan "it's Bush's fault thousands are dead, NO is flooded" bull is just that - bull .
Predictable that some in here would blame Bush immediately and that Klandestino would blame the victims.
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well Clandestino's wrong for what he said, as are those who want to pin this all on Bush.
I am not pinning it all on Bush..on the contrary some of this can possibly be blame on the La. Governor.
Funds were denied to repair the infrastrucre of NO for 20-30 yrs....which included presidents from BOTH parties. Bush just continued what others were doing. Yes, he could changed that trend a made his mark in this way, just don't blmae him for the problems of this type.
This just in....CNN reports President Bush Steers Typhoon Nabi toward poor black people in OKINAWA, KOREA and TAIWAN!
Bush also cut funding for NBADans penile implant.
Let's kill this rumor once and for all...
http://www.pubs.asce.org/ceonline/ce.../0603feat.html
(2003 American Society of Civil Engineers article on NO levees):
6 years to plan, 30 years to complete. Somehow I don't think you can pin it all on Bush."According to Naomi(project manager for all of the Corps’s hurricane protection levees in southeastern Louisiana), any concerted effort to protect the city from a storm of category 4 or 5 will probably take 30 years to complete. And the feasibility study alone for such an effort will cost as much as $8 million. Even though Congress has authorized the feasibility study, funding has not yet been appropriated. When funds are made available, the study will take about six years to complete. “That’s a lot of time to get the study before Congress,” Naomi admits. “Hopefully we won’t have a major storm before then.”
Also:
"In the Flood Control Act of 1965, passed shortly after Hurricane Betsy pummeled New Orleans, Congress appropriated funds to increase the height of the levees around the northern side of the city, where Lake Pontchartrain ominously abuts what used to be swampland but today is suburbia. With help from a meteorologist from the National Weather Service, Corps engineers determined a wind speed and pressure that they felt closely characterized Hurricane Betsy. The work was done before the development of the Saffir-Simpson scale, which today is used to categorize hurricanes. At the time Corps engineers called their approximation a standard project hurricane (SPH), equivalent to what today would be called a fast-moving category 3 storm."
You dumbass. 89% of the public thinks the Feds bare some responsibility. It's not just Clandestino blaming the victims, its also FEMA director Michael Brown and HS director Micheal Jerkoff. Freakin learn to read.Predictable that some in here would blame Bush immediately and that Klandestino would blame the victims.
The Feds are totally at fault. They should have sent heavily armed extraction teams into everyone who wouldn't leave homes and taken them out by force. Oh wait, what would Dan think of that?
That's only because no one, not one single network or major news outlet (aside from Fox) has even broached the idea that local and state government bears any responsibility for what happened in New Orleans.
And, as far as blaming the victims; those that were able and didn't leave bear some of the responsibility for the deaths and misery of those who weren't able to leave.
Hey *dumbass*, looks like your numbers are off.You dumbass. 89% of the public thinks the Feds bare some responsibility.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/HurricaneKa...1094262&page=1
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