The "Caption" race issue update.

[The Ressurrected One]

I still don't see how some cannot see the "racial" content of the captions even though they were not done "intentionally". I guess I just view things from a different perspective than others. But the wife, who is African-American, and I discuss these issues on a daily basis so I get it from her perspective as well.

Again I don't think it was intentional but it doesn't mean it wasn't there.

But that is just me.

Well, Joe. AFP is a French outfit that chose to call them looters. The French, you may know, are not American and, therefore, usually don't apply uniquely American political correctness to their editing. The AP is an American outfit that chose to call them "finders."

Personally, I would make the distinction based on what they were carrying out of the store.

Food and clothing; survivors.

Electronics, furniture, and jewelry; looters.

[JoeChalupa]

Well, it is not only the "liberal media" that is questioning why the assistance was slow in getting there. Even Shepard Smith and Geraldo Rivera squared off against the Bush loving Sean Hannity.
Here are a few choice excerpts:

SMITH: They won't let them walk out of the…convention center. .. they've locked them in there. The government said, "You go here, and you'll get help," or, "You go in that Superdome and you'll get help."

And they didn't get help. They got locked in there. And they watched people being killed around them. And they watched people starving. And they watched elderly people not get any medicine…..

And they've set up a checkpoint. And anyone who walks up out of that city now is turned around. You are not allowed to go to Gretna, Louisiana, from New Orleans, Louisiana. Over there, there's hope. Over there, there's electricity. Over there, there is food and water. But you cannot go from there to there. The government will not allow you to do it. It's a fact.

HANNITY: All right, Shep, I want to get some perspective here, because earlier today...

SMITH: That is perspective! That is all the perspective you need!

Soon, Hannity switches to Geraldo, where he finds no relief:

RIVERA (holding aloft a baby): Sean…I want everyone in the world to see, six days after Katrina swept through this city, five days after the levee collapsed, this baby—this baby—how old is this baby?

UNIDENTIFIED FEMALE: Ten months old…..

RIVERA: Look in the face of the baby. This is it. This is it. No sugar coating, no political spin, no Republicans or Democrats. People suffering.

Let them go. Let them out of here. Let them go. Let them walk over this damn interstate, and let them out of here.

HANNITY: All right. Thanks, Geraldo. Appreciate it. We appreciate—and from New Orleans tonight.

For once, Hannity was nearly speechless (I know, hard to believe).
His preference was clear: Keep Fox’s viewers, Bush’s much valued base, steady and loyal and not say a word against him. And hey, it IS his job you know.

Again, I don't blame Bush and the brunt of the situation DOES fall on the local authorities but the scale of this disaster and loss of life makes it hard for me not to fault the Federal Government and yes, the response was totally unacceptable.

[JoeChalupa]

Well, Joe. AFP is a French outfit that chose to call them looters. The French, you may know, are not American and, therefore, usually don't apply uniquely American political correctness to their editing. The AP is an American outfit that chose to call them "finders."

Personally, I would make the distinction based on what they were carrying out of the store.

Food and clothing; survivors.

Electronics, furniture, and jewelry; looters.

Point taken. But again, I can see why some found it to be "racial" and I can also see why some don't....or won't.

[The Ressurrected One]

Point taken. But again, I can see why some found it to be "racial" and I can also see why some don't....or won't.

Yeah, because they're idiots. It's kind of like that African-American office worker walking out of that budget briefing, filing a complaint, and damn near ruining a man's life because he used the word " rdly" in a presentation about finances.

[SpursWoman]

I still don't see how some cannot see the "racial" content of the captions even though they were not done "intentionally". I guess I just view things from a different perspective than others. But the wife, who is African-American, and I discuss these issues on a daily basis so I get it from her perspective as well.

Again I don't think it was intentional but it doesn't mean it wasn't there.

But that is just me.

They were 2 completely different pictures by 2 completely different photographers working for 2 completely different news agencies.

Does that help?

[JoeChalupa]

Not really. I guess I'm just not making my point very well.

So I'll leave it at that.

[whottt]

Joe...do you realize that the Govenor of Louisiana is in charge of the relief effort?

You do realize that right...

I know Sheppard Smith and Geraldo don't...just like I know they could only see one place at a time and not everything else that was going on.

Just so we are clear on this...the Govenor or Louisiana waited 24 hours after the hurrican before she decided to even let any Federal Military operations into the State.

She never agreed to share power with them...

And she didn't even request for the additional 40,000 troops until Sept 1st. That would be Thursday.


Link:

BATON ROUGE, La. (AP) - Louisiana's governor says she's "not playing the blame game" amid criticism that the government's been to slow to act following Hurricane Katrina.

Kathleen Blanco acknowledges that things didn't ramp up as quickly as they could have. Blanco now is seeking up to 40-thousand troops to help "create order out of a chaotic situation."

The governor said, "I think you'll see a show of force today and in days to come."

Last night, the governor said those troops seasoned by the Iraq war will be "locked and loaded."


If she wanted the Fed to handle it...like they did in Sri Lanka and Florida...she should have gotten the out of the way.

No one realizes all this crap yet...but once they do...it's not going to be good for the State and Local Governments of Louisiana and New Orleans.


There no intelligence coming in or out of the city until Honare went in there and drove down every freaking street....

The Cops could not even get in ing contact with the Govenor or the Mayor...the only ones they could contact were Washington and Washington couldn't give them orders because the Govenor is the one in charge.


Those guardsmen could not act as law enforcement officers until she authorized it....that's why they were sitting there watching people die at the SuperDome.

I don't even see why there is a debate on this...I mean to me it's so blatantly obvious who is at fault here I can't even believe it's being discussed...


Yeah FEMA had it's head up it's ass...but it's first response units were the only ones that did their jobs in the early part of the disaster...

They were slow to get LA and NO the it needed...well NO and LA were slow to ing ask for it...and figure out where it was supposed to go.


Too many cooks spoil the broth...

Too many Chiefs and not enough Indians...

That's the story of all this...

But the Hurricane is still the #1 bad guy here, and the citizens of NO are responsible in part too...not for losing their homes...but for a ty mandatory evacuation...

I mean some of these people are refusing to leave even now....the cops couldn't even get their own families out.

I don't seewhy anyone is spinning it otherwise...oh yeah I do...because some of them are a marginalized political party and are capitalizing on the misfortune to come back into vogue.

[Useruser666]

Does Santa exist?

Maybe Snopes can help.

Why are you pissing all over this thread LJ? I never referenced this for you or anyone else who "got it". I only posted it for those who think it's some form of blatent racism, when infact, it isn't. I have seen several people claim such bias on TV claiming these headlines were from the same story or article.