Even a very cursory glance at the ferguson city budget show the municpal court brought in 4 times what it cost to run.Mike Brown's attorney defending the practice and prosecuting offenders after saying it was these practices that led to the Mike Brown incident
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/0...n_6627426.html
Many believe that aggressive ticketing by small municipalities played a significant role in the anger aimed at police officers in the wake of the shooting of Michael Brown in nearby Ferguson in August. But Anthony Gray, the attorney for Brown’s family, serves as the part-time prosecutor in Pine Lawn and stuck up for its system of court fines. He has served as the tiny city’s equivalent of a police chief since 2014, and defended Pine Lawn’s approach in an interview with a St. Louis Post-Dispatch reporter on Thursday night. “It’s not like we’re pulling over people who were not violating the law,” he told the outlet.
Agreed and it seems to be done all around the Ferguson area. Not the point of this thread though.
The POINT is the Ferguson's police, prosecutor, mayor, etc are totally racist, corrupt, and yes, it seems MO is one ing hole near the top of the list of -hole red states.
MO, home of the Repug Rape Caucus, just annulled legal protections for LGBT.
The POINT of this thread is to show YOU that many of those involved in this terrible scheme are black themselves. Ignoring it won't make it untrue.
How many blacks out of total on the Ferguson PD? prosecutor? mayor? city govt? probation/collection staff, etc etc. What's significant about "black themselves"?
This thread isn't just about Ferguson. Do some research on the city of Pine Lawn and let me know what you find.
I slap forum police before my first morning coffee
You don't have to go through it point by point as he just asked a generalized question. That is the beauty of critical thinking. You identify key points and ideas. I can tell you why they came to that conclusion from the DoJ report in two sentences. If you cannot do it, by the end of the day I will help you out.
86 pages is too much to read even though its something you have argued for countless hours on a message board.
Nice to see you are finally going to get around to reading the report. Let me know how many credible hands up don't shoot witnesses you come across.You don't have to go through it point by point as he just asked a generalized question. That is the beauty of critical thinking. You identify key points and ideas. I can tell you why they came to that conclusion from the DoJ report in two sentences. If you cannot do it, by the end of the day I will help you out.
I'm not the one making claims as to what is or is not in the report. I read it the day out came out, dimwit. I read technical work at about 40 pages an hour but that report was easy so it was closer to 60. Let's go ahead and extend my initial argument which you concede by a nonresponse:
So what are you going to go with?
a) I read the report but am unable to articulate what was said.
b) I didn't read the report and have been lying.
c) I'm just trolling and nothing I do or say matters.
I'm betting c.
Now that you have confirmed reading the DOJ report how many credible hands up don't shoot witnesses did you come across?
Day is running short. I don't think he can do it. That's just sad.
Just because I do not answer the question with the answer you had in mind doesn't mean that I didn't answer your question. Stop being so asshurt that I will not allow you to dictate the terms of the discussion.
Parroting dodge noted. You still called out others for not knowing what's in the DoJ report and have no response.
I am not here to convince you, dumbass. Like I said if someone needs clarification then I will provide more.Parroting dodge noted. You still called out others for not knowing what's in the DoJ report and have no response.
Cool then we can go back to where we started then. He has shown more knowledge of the DoJ report than you have. He even quoted the DoJ report.
So anyway, the DoJ report said that Johnson changed his story multiple times when he was made aware of physical evidence and was unreliable while Officer Wilson's story was consistent throughout. Given nothing credible to dispute Wilson's claim including the remainder of the report, his account of fearing for his life was taken at face value.
My issue is that Wilson never filed a police report nor did he make an official statement until after he had time with attorney's and law enforcement buddies. That is precisely why I took issue with the chiefs sophistry in the initial reporting. The police bill of rights prevented fair and impartial justice from being served but you deal with what you have so it is what it is.
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Oh wow he quoted the DOJ report! The report he quoted answers his own ing question. Not only did they not find enough evidence to contradict they found none.
"There is no evidence upon which prosecutors can rely to disprove"
Like I said if cd021 needs clarification then I will provide more.
Since you were so impressed with a DOJ report quote here is another.
Other witnesses who have suggested that Brown was shot with his hands up in surrender have either recanted their statements, such as Witnesses 119 and 125, provided inconsistent statements, such as Witness 124, or have provided accounts that are verifiably untrue, such as Witnesses 121, 139, and 132. Witness 122 recanted significant portions of his statement by acknowledging that he was not in a position to see what either Brown or Wilson were doing, and who falsely insisted that three police officers pursued Brown and that the shooter was heavy set (in contrast to the slimly-built Wilson). Similar to Witness 128, Witness 122 told Brown’s family that Brown had been shot execution-style. Witness 120 initially told law enforcement that he saw Brown shot at point-blank range as he was on his knees with his hands up. Similar to Witness 138, Witness 120 subsequently acknowledged that he did not see Brown get shot but "assumed" he had been executed while on his knees with his hands up based on "common sense" and what others "in the community told [him.]" There is no witness who has stated that Brown had his hands up in surrender whose statement is otherwise consistent with the physical evidence. For example, some witnesses say that Wilson only fired his weapon out of the SUV,
(e.g. Witnesses 128, 101, and 127) or that Wilson stood next to the SUV and killed Brown right there (e.g. Witnesses 139, 132, 120). Some witnesses insist that Wilson shot Brown in the back as he lay on the ground. (e.g. Witnesses 128 and 139). Some witnesses say that Wilson shot Brown and he went to the ground immediately upon turning to face Wilson. (e.g. Witnesses 138, 101, 118, and 127). Some say Wilson went to the ground with his hands raised at right angles.
(e.g. Witnesses 138, 118, and 121). Again, all of these statements are contradicted by the physical and forensic evidence, which also undermines the credibility of their accounts of other aspects of the incident, including their assertion that Brown had his hands up in a surrender position when Wilson shot him.
Excellent rebuttal. Dodge noted.
What dodge?
Oh you mean this dodge?
In your own words please tell me how you think your copy and paste disproves cd's statements.
The DOJ quotes were for you not cd021.
You are floundering about and not making any sense now. cd021 is talking about 2 separate issues. cd021 answered his own question regarding Wilson with the DOJ quote.
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