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    If the contract is only one-year, then that's what the Spurs offered him. Why are you calling him a er?
    the spurs offered him a one year deal. I thought it was supposed to be for more years. Anyway, if that was supposed to be the original deal then i suppose Finley is not a er.

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    finley that er!!111111111111111

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    finley that er!!111111111111111
    You realize that you are talkin about a Spur, right??

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    A+ for effort.

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    The article is done by Mike Fisher. He's Cuban's pet as Cuban owns the site. He's usually on top of things concerning Mavs or, at least, gets the details straight after the fact. He says Fin's deal is 3yrs. I'm not saying his word is law but I'd say he's got this info from someone in the know.

    http://www.dallasbasketball.com/headline_A.asp?pr=

    All about Fin: We speculated at the time that there were legit talks that would have resulted in a Finley trade. We still believe that. We'll guess that the Mavs had serious deals in place to swap Fin rather than cut him. Maybe Minnesota? Maybe Toronto (shooter Lamond Murray and 6-9 center Aaron Williams)? We believe that when those sorts of deals fell through, the Mavs remained confident that Fin, as a consolation prize, would at least go East and end up in Miami -- and that the only team more surprised than the Mavs by his move to the Spurs was Miami itself. We believe that Mark Cuban's attempt to "cut a deal'' with Fin to keep him from staying in the West was an attempt at trick-'em,- -'em, a sleight-of-hand attempt that might've left Fin holding the bag. ... and a more empty bag than he thought he was holding. We believe Fin represents a bargain for SA, with a three-year deal that goes something like $2.5 mil, $3.0 mil and $3.2 mil. And we believe that privately -- very privately, because the Mavs sharpies never want to say anything negative about Michael -- that rather than feeling consternation over the amnesty rule, they felt elation.

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    The AP article, FoxSports, Hoopshype's salary page, Patricia's basketball's contract page, etc. all say one-year. So I guess until a legitimate sources confirms anything else, people should assume it's one year.

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    I won't believe anything until I read it from Hoopsworld.

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    I won't believe anything until I read it from Hoopsworld.


    For what it's worth, I've emailed Mike Fisher to see where he came up with a 3yr deal. I'll post what he says when I get a response.

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    The AP article, FoxSports, Hoopshype's salary page, Patricia's basketball's contract page, etc. all say one-year. So I guess until a legitimate sources confirms anything else, people should assume it's one year.
    Actually look back at hoopshype site. The 2nd and the 3rd year appear empty (without a 0 but with an unknown value). That means Finley's contract is for 3 years according to them.

    http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm

    And this would also mean a better scenario to move Barry!

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    Why so much feeling the Spurs will be messed up if this is only a 1-year deal? The primary players who got the Spurs through a very tough Finals series are there beyond this season, except for Nazr (not part of the concern discussed here). Devin Brown is young and developing but he was not a core player. If he had been healthy he would have probably contributed more than 5 min/game in the playoffs...but he didn't....and they still won. You want a team that is financially sound and no team can get away with muti-year contracts for a core larger than 6 or 7 key players.

    If you're thinking, well Bowen isn't getting any younger, right? That's true but he's certainly at his career "prime" after last season and not prone to injury and not showing signs of age yet.

    Getting high value, lower dollar role players is a great approach if you can get away with it. A winning system draws that type of talent for the non-starter slots.

    If Finley is signed to a multi-year deal, hey that's great but even if it is only a 1-year deal, it's not for a core major-rotation slot. He COULD BE and MAY WELL BECOME a major contributor but that would be a bonus.

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    The Finley of 5 years ago would have been great this season.

    The current, well-declined Finley will most likely be a marginal contributor. And after his horrible no-show playoff series vs. Suns, I expect he will not be in the Spurs playoff WCF/Finals rotation.

    The backcourt playoff bench will be Brent again, and some Nick (if he stays healthy).

    The frontcourt playoff bench will be Robert again, and some Fabricio.

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    LOL, if you don't think Finley is going to be a serious contender for sixth man of the year, then I don't know where you've been this entire time

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    The current, well-declined Finley will most likely be a marginal contributor. And after his horrible no-show playoff series vs. Suns, I expect he will not be in the Spurs playoff WCF/Finals rotation.
    Terrible take. Anybody remember Horry's performance for LA in 2003? He shot 2-postseason from downtown. People thought he was done, too. All he need was to have his minutes managed. Think along those lines for Finley.

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    I hope I'm wrong, but Fin's scoring (and he is ONLY a scorer) has been going down for 5 years, and his career playoff PPG are below his season PPG.

    Robert can hit those Big Shots, rebound, block shots, make plays, and be a tricky on defense, "all the little things". Finley has no reputation or stats for any of those items, and now you're saying, with Fin a veteran, aka old man, he also needs his minutes to be managed.

    On the Spurs, his career 39 MPG will be more likely well under 24 MPG. If he doesn't show up in the playoffs, as is his habit (more MPG for less PPG, not a good stat for a scorer), with those low season minutes, then I'll be unhappily right.

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    If Finley shoots 39% from the arc and gets a couple of 20+ point games in the playoffs like last season, everything will be worth it.

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    I'll just take the 39% from 3-point land. I could care less if he gets 20+ points (though I certainly wouldn't mind it if he did ). We are not asking Finley to carry the load offensively so he should be fine with coming off the bench and draining some open threes. I am sure he will do fine with our team defense, if Glenn Robinson can do it, so can Finley.

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    Maybe it was Finley's injury but he has really loss alot of what he had early in the year. It will be interesting to see how Finley does coming off the bench along with Van Exel in short minutes.

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    Actually look back at hoopshype site. The 2nd and the 3rd year appear empty (without a 0 but with an unknown value). That means Finley's contract is for 3 years according to them.

    http://www.hoopshype.com/salaries/san_antonio.htm

    And this would also mean a better scenario to move Barry!
    This man does appear to be correct.

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    This man does appear to be correct.
    I would trust AP, Patricia's Basketball and FoxSports before Hoopshype, but who knows. Honestly, we'll probably never know how long Finley's contract is until the possibility of renewing it becomes an issue, or Ludden says it in an article.

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    I would trust AP, Patricia's Basketball and FoxSports before Hoopshype, but who knows. Honestly, we'll probably never know how long Finley's contract is until the possibility of renewing it becomes an issue, or Ludden says it in an article.
    You don't think the AP article lead to Fox using that number leading to Patricia's site using that number?

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    I would trust AP, Patricia's Basketball and FoxSports before Hoopshype, but who knows. Honestly, we'll probably never know how long Finley's contract is until the possibility of renewing it becomes an issue, or Ludden says it in an article.
    Probably true. Danny Ferry, anyone?

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    The article is done by Mike Fisher. He's Cuban's pet as Cuban owns the site. He's usually on top of things concerning Mavs or, at least, gets the details straight after the fact. He says Fin's deal is 3yrs. I'm not saying his word is law but I'd say he's got this info from someone in the know.

    http://www.dallasbasketball.com/headline_A.asp?pr=

    All about Fin: We speculated at the time that there were legit talks that would have resulted in a Finley trade. We still believe that. We'll guess that the Mavs had serious deals in place to swap Fin rather than cut him. Maybe Minnesota? Maybe Toronto (shooter Lamond Murray and 6-9 center Aaron Williams)? We believe that when those sorts of deals fell through, the Mavs remained confident that Fin, as a consolation prize, would at least go East and end up in Miami -- and that the only team more surprised than the Mavs by his move to the Spurs was Miami itself. We believe that Mark Cuban's attempt to "cut a deal'' with Fin to keep him from staying in the West was an attempt at trick-'em,- -'em, a sleight-of-hand attempt that might've left Fin holding the bag. ... and a more empty bag than he thought he was holding. We believe Fin represents a bargain for SA, with a three-year deal that goes something like $2.5 mil, $3.0 mil and $3.2 mil. And we believe that privately -- very privately, because the Mavs sharpies never want to say anything negative about Michael -- that rather than feeling consternation over the amnesty rule, they felt elation.

    So the Mavs' front office is celebrating because Finley ended up costing the Spurs relatively nothing and the Mavs are still on the hook for the remaining $52 mil on his original contract?

    Yeah, Cuban looks really good after that.

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    Probably can be a one year contract with a second one with Player option

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