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    If they elect not to foul with a ~4 second differential between shot and game clock, you should dribble for 23 seconds and heave up a high arcing half court three, preferably bouncing off the rim. This is really just simple math.

    The NBA is so weird.

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    it has been his money shot, but usually off the post, or some jab steps from a triple threat... not when he just clears out from the 3 point line, dribbles and pulls up. thats what westbrick does too much too
    I remember the one where he was fouled and the one where Ariza defleced the ball into the backcourt. The other jumpers were from the post IIRC. They really shouldn't iso him up top like that though...either post him up or set some screens for him to get a good look from midrange imo.

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    Manu or Kawhi.

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    I will say the Parker diaw pick and Pop prolly is my favorite play
    I prefer Parker/Manu Duncan p&R with Diaw in the right corner 3. If they can get to the rim the can force Diaws man into the paint leaving Diaw open in the corner. That Memphis 3OT game, Diaw hit a couple of those late with Randolph sagging off of him

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    all that mess. I will always ride or die with Manu.
    Word.

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    IIRC, the last time Gino went ISO on a last play like that was against Dallas in Game 3 of last playoffs... and he made the basket.

    But the Spurs had timeouts this game, at this point they should be able to draw a better play.
    I'm talking last plays of qtrs, halfs, games. It's been happening for two years. He makes a bad play ing those situations more times than not now.

    I called the turnover as soon as he isolated tonight at the end. It's too easy now. He's like Romo now.

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    Only thing Tony would get us is a step back mid-range jumpshot. Sure bad things can happen with the ball in manu's hands but he'll be able to make things happen in a mul ude of ways more often than tony.

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    I'm talking last plays of qtrs, halfs, games. It's been happening for two years. He makes a bad play ing those situations more times than not now.

    I called the turnover as soon as he isolated tonight at the end. It's too easy now. He's like Romo now.
    last plays of first 3 quarters don't mean . I'm talking closing out games, which is something he's not been doing at all lately, and rightly so. He's not 32 years old anymore.

    It's either him or Tony though, the only two guys that can handle the rock consistently. But it can't be ISO, it has to be at least screened.

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    My point is that it can't be an ISO. It just can't be one on one... I trust Tony to make a play too, and at least Tony has the speed if you need to ISO out...

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    Best option is to play like the 2015 Spurs and not have any close games, tbh..

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    last plays of first 3 quarters don't mean . I'm talking closing out games, which is something he's not been doing at all lately, and rightly so. He's not 32 years old anymore.

    It's either him or Tony though, the only two guys that can handle the rock consistently. But it can't be ISO, it has to be at least screened.
    I didn't say they did. My point is if he turns it over at the end of the first, at the end of the half, at the end of the 3rd, what the do you think is gonna happen at the end of the 4th?

    At this point, Tony needs to have the rock at the end. As much as he disappears in games, he is still very clutch late in games.

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    Why would anyone want a cancerous choker like Enrique to close out games? Especially when having point guards closing out games just ends up stagnating the whole offense when opposing teams put bigger defenders on them.

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    Agree with OP

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    all that mess. I will always ride or die with Manu.
    I would normally too but usually nowadays he will turn it over TBH. The old Manu yes, the one right now not so sure as he seems to just dribble and bumble the ball out of bounds or turn it over. I miss the one who hit the shot or drew the foul to hit FT's.

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    I didn't say they did. My point is if he turns it over at the end of the first, at the end of the half, at the end of the 3rd, what the do you think is gonna happen at the end of the 4th?

    At this point, Tony needs to have the rock at the end. As much as he disappears in games, he is still very clutch late in games.
    It's just isn't true though. Manu's is averaging pretty much the same amount of turnovers this season he's averaged his entire career (2.2/game, career 2.1/game).

    What is true is that he can't take guys one on one anymore and finish at the rim like he used to, that's why I'm in agreement that Tony has more weapons right now than a 38 years old.

    If you want Manu to handle the rock, you gotta put some screens and he need to make a play for somebody else.

    Manu should still be on the floor, he has a knack for the big shot or play, it's one of the few guys that can still get to the rim and get fouled and he can still play D.

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    Manu himself was saying it on the interview from last week that he doesn't get to close games anymore, and he's fine with that. He's fully aware he can't do what he used to do.

    Which is why I don't get the Pop going with it. He had a timeout, and there were still 6 secs left after the 24 secs clock.

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    all that mess. I will always ride or die with Manu.
    if you are serious, me too

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    if you are serious, me too
    I am serious. He's still the most offensively talented player we have. Kawhi can score but Manu has an arsenal of moves.

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    It's just isn't true though. Manu's is averaging pretty much the same amount of turnovers this season he's averaged his entire career (2.2/game, career 2.1/game).

    What is true is that he can't take guys one on one anymore and finish at the rim like he used to, that's why I'm in agreement that Tony has more weapons right now than a 38 years old.

    If you want Manu to handle the rock, you gotta put some screens and he need to make a play for somebody else.

    Manu should still be on the floor, he has a knack for the big shot or play, it's one of the few guys that can still get to the rim and get fouled and he can still play D.
    It is true. if he's averaging the same turnovers while playing less minutes and handling the ball less, that means he's turning it over more than ever.

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    It is true. if he's averaging the same turnovers while playing less minutes and handling the ball less, that means he's turning it over more than ever.
    No it isn't. He's averaging the same 23 mpg he's been averaging the past 3 seasons. Heck, in his prime, when he played more minutes he averaged more turnovers (2.7 per game in 2007/2008). He just had more game back then, so people didn't stress about it.

    Since 2013 people have been overreacting greatly over his turnovers (perhaps rightly so, tbh), but he's always turned the ball over at about the same rate.

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    id rather have a kawhi iso than a parker any day of the week. parker brought nothing tonight. absolutely nothing.
    And the last game his 27 points were all at the wrong time so man let's just trade this guy right Rob?

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    i seriously hope you're trolling right now. Kawhi gets a free pass for chucking. Porker was 1-7 and you're talking about kawhi. Unbelievable.
    Hey genius, you said Tony was chucking on Wednesday when he went 13/18. Your usage of words means nothing anymore.

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    That Parker pass to Tim was beautiful. Duncan missed it, but still... Right decision
    That should have sealed the game.

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    That should have sealed the game.
    ''It was a good opportunity for me to get redemption at the end,'' Duncan said, noting his missed layup that would have put it away earlier.

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    I'm talking last plays of qtrs, halfs, games. It's been happening for two years. He makes a bad play ing those situations more times than not now.

    I called the turnover as soon as he isolated tonight at the end. It's too easy now. He's like Romo now.
    Probably not the best comparison. You don't get the highest QBR in the league if you turn the ball over a lot.

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