2015 Free Agent: LaMarcus Aldridge

[CGD]

Trading Splitter while Duncan leaves is pretty much a nonstarter. No way the Spurs role with only the MLE/Baynes at the five.

I guess it will just depends on how much the Spurs want LMA. Obviously something has to give, and, as you've outlined elsewhere, the Spurs are well below max cap space just to outright sign LMA. The other option is a Diaw centric trade, but not sure what Portland would have to say there.

If Duncan does want to come back, wouldn't he be signed via Bird rights if a LMA-Splitter trade went down?

[Chinook]

I guess it will just depends on how much the Spurs want LMA. Obviously something has to give, and, as you've outlined elsewhere, the Spurs are well below max cap space just to outright sign LMA. The other option is a Diaw centric trade, but not sure what Portland would have to say there.

No one has to care what Portland thinks if the Spurs are just moving Diaw/Splitter to open up cap room. If they are executing a S&T, Portland may care, but only if the Spurs are trying to move that player to the Blazers. Plenty of third teams would take either without sending back salary.

If Duncan does want to come back, wouldn't he be signed via Bird rights if a LMA-Splitter trade went down?

No. Duncan has to be addressed first, since his cap hold is so large. If it's a S&T, then you're correct that the Spurs wouldn't need a decision from his financially. But I don't think they move Tiago unless Tim commits to coming back first.

[CGD]

No one has to care what Portland thinks if the Spurs are just moving Diaw/Splitter to open up cap room. If they are executing a S&T, Portland may care, but only if the Spurs are trying to move that player to the Blazers. Plenty of third teams would take either without sending back salary.



No. Duncan has to be addressed first, since his cap hold is so large. If it's a S&T, then you're correct that the Spurs wouldn't need a decision from his financially. But I don't think they move Tiago unless Tim commits to coming back first.

Got it. I just wonder what teams have the capspace to absorb Tiago (or Boris) and his remaining years, and how much that's going to cost the Spurs (picks, etc.). Could be a many. Neither Boris or Tiago have bad contracts (on the contrary), but I'd think just dealing with Portland directly might be less costly since they're at risk of losing an asset for nothing. But your right that Portland doesn't really matter in the end.

With respect to Duncan, I was referring to a scenario where there was a trade and the Spurs are MLE players not capspace players.

[rjv]

I don't know how you can understand why that would be appealing but no understand why the Spurs would want to do whatever it takes to get Portland to agree to a S&T. Ideally, the Spurs would just send out Parker and picks. If that's an option on the table, the Spurs would be fools not to take it. (Though I would try to trade Baynes for something or include him in the S&T to Portland in that case). But the team just can't afford an off-year if next season is Tim's last.

and i am pretty sure duncan is predicating some of his decision on how realistic a shot at a le would be next season.

[buttsR4rebounding]

Got it. I just wonder what teams have the capspace to absorb Tiago (or Boris) and his remaining years, and how much that's going to cost the Spurs (picks, etc.). Could be a many. Neither Boris or Tiago have bad contracts (on the contrary), but I'd think just dealing with Portland directly might be less costly since they're at risk of losing an asset for nothing. But your right that Portland doesn't really matter in the end.

With respect to Duncan, I was referring to a scenario where there was a trade and the Spurs are MLE players not capspace players.

If the Spurs put Tiago on the block there would be real demand for him. His contract is very favorable for a big. The Spurs would likely get back at least 1 first rounder for Tiago.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

i don't want Aldridge, i'd rather bargain shop a restricted like Draymond Green or Tristan Thompson. I want to hate on Aldridge and the best i could come up with is this. forget Blake Griffin, what are the Spurs going to do when Timmy goes Parker and Manu? While Anthony Davis takes his 1st round bounce about as happily as Bruce Banner. And the bench probably still has Bonner and whatever new version of Jeff Ayers is around, playing because Baynes is fouled out and Splitter is hurt. I've got no hate for Diaw, he's the prime non-Duncan option... against not Blake, but priming up Anthony Davis!

I can't say i've seen or heard of any Aldridge/Davis showdowns. Pelicans and Blazers are out, always are. That's been even more true for Aldridge than Davis, i don't see that changing for Aldridge. But i don't think that 's gonna fly much longer, for Davis. went to youtube, typed up Aldridge vs Davis... vote restricted free agency in summer 15'

https://youtu.be/r-7PLUAJPSA

[Chinook]

^Ugh.

[AFBlue]

^Ugh.

[Mr Bones]

I'll root for Aldridge if the Spurs manage to get him, but I'm still not totally convinced that spending 12-14 mil or so on a combo of Brandan Wright & Jonas Jerebko wouldn't be a similar or better option.... it would be cheaper, and would leave the Spurs with a few million left over.

Here are the stats from last year for the three players: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...01&p4=&p5=&p6=

[Dingle Barry]

i don't want Aldridge, i'd rather bargain shop a restricted like Draymond Green or Tristan Thompson. I want to hate on Aldridge and the best i could come up with is this. forget Blake Griffin, what are the Spurs going to do when Timmy goes Parker and Manu? While Anthony Davis takes his 1st round bounce about as happily as Bruce Banner. And the bench probably still has Bonner and whatever new version of Jeff Ayers is around, playing because Baynes is fouled out and Splitter is hurt. I've got no hate for Diaw, he's the prime non-Duncan option... against not Blake, but priming up Anthony Davis!

I can't say i've seen or heard of any Aldridge/Davis showdowns. Pelicans and Blazers are out, always are. That's been even more true for Aldridge than Davis, i don't see that changing for Aldridge. But i don't think that 's gonna fly much longer, for Davis. went to youtube, typed up Aldridge vs Davis... vote restricted free agency in summer 15'

https://youtu.be/r-7PLUAJPSA

What the is wrong with your brain?

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

i don't want Aldridge, i'd rather bargain shop a restricted like Draymond Green or Tristan Thompson. I want to hate on Aldridge and the best i could come up with is this. forget Blake Griffin, what are the Spurs going to do when Timmy goes Parker and Manu? While Anthony Davis takes his 1st round bounce about as happily as Bruce Banner. And the bench probably still has Bonner and whatever new version of Jeff Ayers is around, playing because Baynes is fouled out and Splitter is hurt. I've got no hate for Diaw, he's the prime non-Duncan option... against not Blake, but priming up Anthony Davis!

I can't say i've seen or heard of any Aldridge/Davis showdowns. Pelicans and Blazers are out, always are. That's been even more true for Aldridge than Davis, i don't see that changing for Aldridge. But i don't think that 's gonna fly much longer, for Davis. went to youtube, typed up Aldridge vs Davis... vote restricted free agency in summer 15'

https://youtu.be/r-7PLUAJPSA

I'll root for Aldridge if the Spurs manage to get him, but I'm still not totally convinced that spending 12-14 mil or so on a combo of Brandan Wright & Jonas Jerebko wouldn't be a similar or better option.... it would be cheaper, and would leave the Spurs with a few million left over.

Here are the stats from last year for the three players: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...01&p4=&p5=&p6=

What the is wrong with your brain?

[monkeypunk]

Don't know why you guys are surprised about this guys post. He's got Drunk in his ing username.....

[Mr Bones]

It's a complex situation... it's not a matter of simply signing LMA. There might be a sign & trade involved, and there are many other factors, like whether or not Manu and Cojo return. If the Spurs gain LMA but lose Splitter, Manu, and Cojo I'd say that's a step backward. If the Spurs gain LMA, lose Splitter, keep Manu & Cojo, and sign a FA like Brandan Wright, then I'd say it's step forward. The details matter. If Cojo and Manu leave, the Spurs will have a serious problem at the PG position, with an aging Parker in decline and Mills being more of a SG in a PGs body. Danny Green has his strengths, but ball handling is not one of them.

[monkeypunk]

It's a complex situation... it's not a matter of simply signing LMA. There might be a sign & trade involved, and there are many other factors, like whether or not Manu and Cojo return. If the Spurs gain LMA but lose Splitter, Manu, and Cojo I'd say that's a step backward. If the Spurs gain LMA, lose Splitter, keep Manu & Cojo, and sign a FA like Brandan Wright, then I'd say it's step forward. The details matter. If Cojo and Manu leave, the Spurs will have a serious problem at the PG position, with an aging Parker in decline and Mills being more of a SG in a PGs body. Danny Green has his strengths, but ball handling is not one of them.

I agree on needing ball handlers for the second unit with Beli, Manu, Diaw, Cojo, etc. all set to move on. I honestly think that KA can fill that role, given the opportunity. If he can, that fills that need without bringing anyone else onto the payroll, since he's already there.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

What the is wrong with your brain?

Aldridge is this years Bosh. He's marquee and expensive and doesn't even get as far into the playoffs as younger more available Harden-like alternatives.

[DrunkTXLabrat]

There is something wrong with my brain, I don't gobble up Aldridge sucking smoke blowing like you. Get in line with the Reggie Williams supporters, fool.

[Big P]

Wright is a scrub and a hack, I'll never forget that Spurs/Mavs series, so many cheap shots and talked so much to TD, definitely not Spur material.

[pad300]

DrunkTXLabrat may have a point. I'm not sure that Aldridge is all that either. For example, compare the shot charts from :

http://www.austinclemens.com/shotcharts/

for Amir Johnson and LaMarcus Aldridge.

Johnson shoots a better percentage from close (61 vs 60 %), 2 pt jumpers (45 vs 41%) and 3pt jumpers (41 vs 35 %). Overall Amir Johnson has a 60.3 TS% vs Aldridge's 52.8%. They both draw 0.26 FTA/FGA. Johnson is more willing to pass 0.22 Ast/FGA vs 0.09 for Aldridge...

Is Aldridge worth twice what Johnson would cost? I'm not convinced. Aldridge does have better rebounding numbers, but that primarily due to D-boards. Aldridge plays beside Robin Lopez, who tends to focus on blocking out - which inflates Aldridges DRB% (22.9% for Aldridge, 13.1% for Lopez), vs Johnson playing beside Valancunias (DRB% 17.3 for Johnson, 26.3 for Valancunias).