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You're such a sweet talker. Oh you.
dammit eriks
now everytime i look at your posts i imagine you're a ridiculously hot, gigantic breasted super model just begging for it (attention)
You're such a sweet talker. Oh you.
You're such a sweet talker. Oh you.
thats seriously soooo not cool
that picture is like 25 points above the upper lethal limit on the Hotness Scale
Sorry, here it is, along with some irony...
disaster declaration
Edit: For the Faux news crowd:President Bush has declared a state of emergency for the Gulf Coast state of Louisiana, as it braces for the expected onslaught of Hurricane Katrina, set to make landfall on Monday.
Saturday's emergency declaration authorizes federal officials to coordinate all disaster relief efforts and provide appropriate assistance in several Louisiana parishes.
Faux even says so...
The president's emergency declaration authorizes the FEMA to coordinate all disaster relief efforts and to provide appropriate assistance in a number of Louisiana parishes, or counties.
Last edited by exstatic; 09-08-2005 at 12:10 AM.
That declaration of Emergency does not give FEMA authority over the Govenor of the state of Louisiana...Geezus how hard is this to figure out? It gives them authority over Federal Resources to be used at the request of the ing govenor, they cannot do anything or supply anything without her first asking for it...it does not give them power over her, it does not give them the power to act within that state without her authorization. Dammit....figure it out.
Once both the Governor of Louisiana and the President both declared State of Emergencies it was up to the President and the WH to step up and give FEMA all the authority it needs to handle the situation, even Federalizing the State NG, and commandeer whatever resources it needed to get the job done. Clearly, that didn't happen here.
Ok...as we already agreed upon...it's Bush's fault for respecting that dumb 's authority...that still leaves a failed evac effort by the local authorities, in terms of supplying their own police forece with food and water...not to mention everyone they packed into the dome...and something Bush did not have the power Federalize...
But for the sake of this argument...FEMA did not have authority in the evac. Mookie is wrong...exstatic is wrong...and everyone who thought they did was wrong. They were and still are strictly support.
And I agree....Bush was an idiot to leave ing Blanco in power...but if he had removed her...you and I both know the major purpose in your political life would be to blame him.
So go ahead and take this into the mass media...I can't wait till the Democrats hit the press with this one...It's Bush's fault for not over-ruling the authority of the Democratic Govenor of Louisiana. Decyring a President who puts up with your incompetence is not going to get you the government back... it's only going to scare even more people off.
By the way...did you notice that when all the was hitting the fan and FEMA and Bush were getting blasted...the name people called for was not a Democrat...it was Guilianni. I guess everyone knows the Democrats are not fit to lead anything....even the Democrats know it now...it's Bush's fault for respecting their authority and leaving them in positions of leadership....even at the state and local levels.
Last edited by whottt; 09-08-2005 at 03:48 AM.
Well, FEMA didn't directly make the call because the President sat on his hands, but they did have Federal jurisdiction over the city, and they did advise the NO local authorities on what preparations they should make to protect the citizens of NO, including the idea to bus people to evacuation centers like the SuperDome and how many supplies they should have on hand.
None-the-less, after the levee broke, FEMA had all the authority it needed to airdrop food, water, medicine to the citizens of NO. They knew what was gonna happen, they had models that showed exactly what would happen to the city in case of a levee breach.
The whole Guilianni thing is a remnant of 911. People remember how reassured they felt when Guilianni confidently lead them through the recovery, but that doesn't mean that elements within the Republican Party itself would support Guilianni for President as a Republican candidate.
True, but the Cons ution says only Congress can appropriate funding, and that wasn't done until Sep 2 for $10B.
Take a look at the following website, http://www.captainsquartersblog.com/...ves/005367.php
For now selected paragraphs are found below:
"Let's talk about poor response. Why did it take Congress five days to take action? They knew this storm went to a category 5 last week before it made landfall. No matter where it hit, it had a 100% chance of doing catastrophic damage somewhere, and by Friday it had New Orleans squarely in its sights. Congress should have been back in DC by Monday to get this bill passed and hand it to President Bush, not five days later. They couldn't be bothered to come back from their August vacation more than a couple of days early....
...When the storm reached Cat-5 status in the Gulf of Mexico, what did George Bush do? He declared the entire Gulf coast an emergency area and mobilized FEMA. Until it actually made landfall, however, he could not pinpoint the assets. Even at the last moment, the brunt of the storm hit Gulfport, not New Orleans. The levee failure came later, on Tuesday, and until then the damage to New Orleans was major, not catastrophic.
Even so, the existence of the storm off the coast of Louisiana should have prompted governments on all levels to act. What happened? The city of New Orleans and the state of Louisiana asked people to evacuate, but made no preparations to assist people in that endeavor. By Friday the outbound roads clogged with people in cars looking to escape, which all did. However, an entire fleet of school buses -- hundreds of them -- sat in their parking lots, gathering dust. Until George Bush called Governor Blanco personally and pleaded with her to make the evacuation order mandatory on Saturday, neither Mayor Nagin nor Blanco told people they had to leave. Apparently, that order only went out over the TV and radio from their press conference; no attempt was made to direct people out of their homes and onto the road.
After the levees broke on Tuesday, the situation broke down rapidly, a drearily predictable result. The two main refugee centers, the official one at the Superdome and the ad-hoc site at the Convention Center, should have been evacuated at that point. However, even two days after landfall, New Orleans had not moved its buses to high ground to keep them ready for use in case the levees broke. Lousiana's governor had not called out her National Guard units, only 25% of which have deployed to Iraq. With I-10 from the east completely unusable for vehicular traffic and the New Orleans PD completely absorbed by search-and-rescue functions, looting ran wild and order completely broke down. Nagin only ordered the PD to take on looting as a high priority on Thursday.
What did George Bush do? He had a wide area of devastation to manage. Mississippi has also sustained catastrophic damage, with entire towns destroyed, flooded, and unable to fend for themselves. He does not have the authority to call out anyone's National Guard until he federalizes the units, a move usually reserved for use when governors prove recalcitrant in mobilization. Yet within three days of the levee burst and the drowning of New Orleans, Bush had 40,000 troops entering the city to take over the management from Nagin and Blanco, delivering the aid that had waited for lines of communication to get established and the order that the NOPD and Louisiana could not maintain.
We work within a federal system, where cities and states control the allocation of resources used within their borders. We do this because we recognize that, for the most part, federalism works. Local decisions about resource allocation usually create better results than top-down bureaucratic management. The main requirement for that to work is local leadership. Blaming George Bush because he delivered results within three days of the major catastrophic event while following these rules is as silly as blaming Congress for taking five days to pass an aid bill.
The main failure in New Orleans came when the local and state governments refused to recognize that the storm had a high chance to cause catastrophic damage and use its assets to get the poor and infirm out of its way. They had plenty of resources (in vehicles) with which to do that, but left them right where the floods would destroy them. All the rest of the damage would have been mere property destruction, difficult to rebuild but nonetheless easier to accept than the unbelievable hardship we've seen this week."
Last edited by Money316; 09-08-2005 at 06:10 AM.
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