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Yeah, Bosh had the ball for less than a second, hard to think that quickly in a situation like that and given what hapened to Manu with Dirk in game 7 he probably wasnt about to try that again
The foul on that play should have been Manu on the Bosh rebound, but that's easy to say in hindsight
Yeah, Bosh had the ball for less than a second, hard to think that quickly in a situation like that and given what hapened to Manu with Dirk in game 7 he probably wasnt about to try that again
Basically, plus the fact you are tied in that game would mean you are essentially giving them points. If they miss the shot then it worked out not fouling the player, if they happen to make it we can guess all we want scenarios but I doubt a coach fouls when tied in a game. If you are up 3 points then yeah go ahead and foul to prevent the three ball, if you are only up 2 points you let it play out as well unless someone is right at the hoop and you can send them to the line instead of an easy two given up (Thats the only time you foul IMO).
NC State fouled in a tied game with 30 seconds left back during their run to an NCAA championship
How many times are people going to do that and it works out? One example is not going to make me foul in a tie game when you can play D and hope they miss the shot and get the board. If you foul and they hit on both and you miss on the other end and lose by 2 you look like an idiot for fouling correct? Sure you have to make the FT's but usually a guard will have the ball in his hands and will sink both, meaning you just gave them the lead at the line.
If we were up 3, then yes.
Tied,no.
Does anyone have Pops phone #?
I agree with you, I was just playing devil's advocate
This is the dumbest thread I've ever read. Would only make sense if winning by 3. Even if up 2 and you were fouling DeAndre Jordan as he received the ball (unless it's a sure fire dunk), it's probably not worth doing. Though MAYBE in DeAndre's case.
Fouling while tied is something Pete Carroll would probably do. He also thinks the CIA knocked down the Twin Towers.
I would explain it to you but you are obviously too in stupid to understand.
The rule applies to off the ball intentional fouls. If Jordan were to receive the inbounds pass then get fouled it's the standard two shots
For the sake of discussion, we could assume the following:
1. DJ is in the game (Doc actually took him out when the Clippers got the ball with 8.8 seconds left)
2. Spurs could force the ball to DJ with six seconds left and foul him (a big assumption)
3. The Clippers' percentage of making a two point field goal is 50% (I'm disregarding the three)
4. The Clippers would score (or not score) with three seconds or less
5. DJ's percentage on any FT is 50%
If so, it shakes out like this:
Fouling:
Spurs get the ball with six seconds left and down two -- 25%
Spurs get the ball with six seconds left and down one -- 50%
Spurs get the ball with six seconds left tied -- 25%
Not fouling:
Spurs get the ball with three (or less) seconds left and down two -- 50%
Spurs get the ball with three (or less) seconds left and tied -- 50%
You make the call.
As for Doc, presumably there was some reason he took out one of the best offensive rebounder/putback guys in the league with 8.8 second left.
The mistake was made at the end of the game with 1 second left. After the ref helped the Clips out Pop should have used the timeout and instead of the alley oop, Pop should have designed a fast pass inbounds play for a 3 point shooter. It was a prayer at that point anyway, but I would have just thrown it in for a quick 3.
I was hoping they'd go for the three.
First, the Clippers would have to honor the alley oop (only up two) and commit a defender to any player in the paint -- they couldn't load up on the perimeter and ignore the two.
Second, they couldn't foul -- three free throws would be a killer and any foul on a catch-and-shoot with one second left would likely be a shooting foul.
Three, go for the win on the road. The Spurs were gassed mentally and physically and needed to win it then and there.
Think I got lost. Two freethrows and possession was my concern. What did I miss?
Foul Paul. Save time. No?
Last edited by Skull-1; 05-06-2015 at 10:59 AM.
Yes because nobody misses free throws you f***ing idiot.
Pop didn't care. You heard him say he didn't believe they would succeed anyway. Pretty tough to win when your coach loses faith.
The Spurs get beat on an absolutely amazing shot by a really good player, playing on one leg, over two of the Spurs' best defenders, and someone still finds a way to question it or blame the coach.
I wish you were a reporter so you could have discussed that "strategy" with Pop in the post-game.
I wish you were a reporter so you could have discussed that "strategy" with Pop in the post-game.
ST wishes your dad had pulled out.
I wish your Mom had finished the abortion instead of just going half-way.
How original.
I don't know why Pop didn't watch the game footage like we did and come up with some of the things we came up with. He could have seen that Matt Barnes was going to do a backdoor cut, and that we'd have only 1 second to play, and also know that first play call was going to be useless because of the shot clock fiasco. Pop should spend more time reviewing game footage.
In your scenario its Paul at the line. He hit them both.
Again, you're all but guaranteeing yourself a two point deficit there. Extra time doesn't really help you.
Where the Spurs screwed up is giving Paul that much time to begin with.
The Spurs get beat on an absolutely amazing shot by a really good player, playing on one leg, over two of the Spurs' best defenders, and someone still finds a way to question it or blame the coach.
And this x10000. Ask Paul to hit that shot another 20 times and he makes perhaps 5 or 6 of those.
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