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    Monroe sucks, but no. Here's a list of the key URFA's (some have a PO like Love, but they are at least URFA's):

    Millsap, Lopez, Thad Young, Al Jefferson, Love, Tyson Chandler, Monta Ellis, Greg Monroe, David West, DeAndre Jordan, Marc Gasol, LMA, Wes Matthews, Amir Johnson
    Any preferences?

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    O'Quinn is not going to be cheap at all like that. He will approach 6-9M a year IMO.
    Doubt that. If Splitter is making $8m, I don't see anyone paying a mid-2nd rounder who's proven nothing in the NBA $6-9m. $5m max

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    Doubt that. If Splitter is making $8m, I don't see anyone paying a mid-2nd rounder who's proven nothing in the NBA $6-9m. $5m max
    Times are a-changing my man. Spillters' contract was at a different time. Prices are going to go up a little because of the new salary cap kicking in soon. In order to incent players to sign now, have to pay a little more IMO or they will wait until those averages are forced up. Luckily, they had a down year and he didn't really show major improvement so it could hold his price down some.

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    Monroe sucks, but no. Here's a list of the key URFA's (some have a PO like Love, but they are at least URFA's):

    Millsap, Lopez, Thad Young, Al Jefferson, Love, Tyson Chandler, Monta Ellis, Greg Monroe, David West, DeAndre Jordan, Marc Gasol, LMA, Wes Matthews, Amir Johnson
    I think Monroe could become a fringe-AS level player in the Spurs system. He's got the tools.

    You also forgot Dragic, Lou Williams, Brendan Wright, Afflalo, Stuckey, Ed Davis, Rin, SCOLA, Beno... and of course everyone's favorite AK-47

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    Times are a-changing my man. Spillters' contract was at a different time. Prices are going to go up a little because of the new salary cap kicking in soon. In order to incent players to sign now, have to pay a little more IMO or they will wait until those averages are forced up. Luckily, they had a down year and he didn't really show major improvement so it could hold his price down some.
    O'Quinn couldn't even average more minutes than last season, despite the Magic having all kinds of injury trouble in their frontcourt.

    I know Chinook is big on this guy, though

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    TBH, I haven't really thought about it too much. No one really gets me pumped up. First blush, I would probably say Al Jefferson or Brook Lopez. Main reason is I think those guys will be cheaper. LMA/Love/Gasol are definitely max players. Lopez/Al I think give you very similar results, but both might be willing to take less to get into a winning situation. Lopez with his injury risk, might take less per year for longer years for security and Al Jefferson might take less for the reasons I pointed out.

    But I would really need to think about it. I have always liked Amir Johnson too.

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    I think Monroe could become a fringe-AS level player in the Spurs system. He's got the tools.

    You also forgot Dragic, Lou Williams, Brendan Wright, Afflalo, Stuckey, Ed Davis, Rin, SCOLA, Beno... and of course everyone's favorite AK-47
    Didn't forget those guys, just did my own filtering of guys I thought either weren't that good (Lou Will, Afflalo, Stuckey, Davis, etc..) or that there really wasn't a good shot (Dragic) or not exciting to make the cut (Wright, Stuckey, Rin, Beno).

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    TBH, I haven't really thought about it too much. No one really gets me pumped up. First blush, I would probably say Al Jefferson or Brook Lopez. Main reason is I think those guys will be cheaper. LMA/Love/Gasol are definitely max players. Lopez/Al I think give you very similar results, but both might be willing to take less to get into a winning situation. Lopez with his injury risk, might take less per year for longer years for security and Al Jefferson might take less for the reasons I pointed out.

    But I would really need to think about it. I have always liked Amir Johnson too.
    I wouldn't mind LMA but his lack of success in the playoffs is a bit of a red flag imo. Amir Johnson sounds nice, tbh.

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    Eh.

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    I wouldn't mind LMA but his lack of success in the playoffs is a bit of a red flag imo. Amir Johnson sounds nice, tbh.
    He dropped 40Pts+ in back 2 back games to start the playoffs last year against Houston....Dude played with a torn ligament in his thumb.. Aldridige is an offensive monster.

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    He dropped 40Pts+ in back 2 back games to start the playoffs last year against Houston....Dude played with a torn ligament in his thumb.. Aldridige is an offensive monster.
    against houston isn't saying much. he the bed against the spurs and got shat on all over by the grizz this season in round 1

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    against houston isn't saying much. he the bed against the spurs and got shat on all over by the grizz this season in round 1
    But you said he doesn't have playoff success?? And you follow with "Amir Johnson" is nice...

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    But you said he doesn't have playoff success?? And you follow with "Amir Johnson" is nice...
    and? Amir Johnson is nice. Is there a problem with me saying that? LMA is good in the regular season just like Amir. Both come up short in the playoffs. It is what it is.

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    and? Amir Johnson is nice. Is there a problem with me saying that? LMA is good in the regular season just like Amir. Both come up short in the playoffs. It is what it is.
    What?

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    what? both are good players. neither are great.

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    Brandon Bass or Brandon Wright if L.A and Gasol falls through.

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    I don't understand how you can possibly think that. Memphis and Spurs were two of the top 3 defences this year, and Gasol is better at all aspects of defence than Splitter and Duncan is better at all aspects of defence than Randolph.
    Splitter and Gasol don't do the same things on defense. Gasol plays the Duncan role. So the Spurs would have two Duncans not no Splitters. That's a recipe for really bad defense.

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    I don't understand how you can possibly think that. Memphis and Spurs were two of the top 3 defences this year, and Gasol is better at all aspects of defence than Splitter and Duncan is better at all aspects of defence than Randolph.
    No Splitter is a much better defender than Gasol. Gasol is really good, but Splitter, when healthy is like the Bowen in post. Remember when he made Randolph shoot like 38% for the series two years back. Made LA shot the same, and this is the LA that came off shooting like 56% against the Rockets the series before.

    If Splitter never got injured, there is no way in I would consider trading him. But because he isn't reliable, trading him to acquire a player like LA, I would at this point.

    And Gasol isn't leaving Memphis. So its LA or Millsaps for the Spurs at this point.

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    Splitter and Gasol don't do the same things on defense. Gasol plays the Duncan role. So the Spurs would have two Duncans not no Splitters. That's a recipe for really bad defense.
    No Splitter is a much better defender than Gasol. Gasol is really good, but Splitter, when healthy is like the Bowen in post. Remember when he made Randolph shoot like 38% for the series two years back. Made LA shot the same, and this is the LA that came off shooting like 56% against the Rockets the series before.

    If Splitter never got injured, there is no way in I would consider trading him. But because he isn't reliable, trading him to acquire a player like LA, I would at this point.

    And Gasol isn't leaving Memphis. So its LA or Millsaps for the Spurs at this point.
    While I agree Gasol isn't leaving Memphis, you're out of your mind if you think Splitter is a better defender than him.

    As for the comparison, Gasol would fit brilliantly next to Duncan. He is a great pick and roll defender and he's a bigger, stronger defender in the post than Splitter and a better rim protector. It's nonsense to define our guys by the 'Splitter' and 'Duncan' role because defensive roles, especially for big men, are dictated by what the offence does in terms of which player sets the pick etc... Of course they do the same things on defence, they both defend the post, pick and roll, play help defence and rebound.

    Gasol is excellent at all facets of defence, that's why he's a former DPOY and will more than likely get another All-Defence nod this year. The fact that you think having 'two Duncans' would be a bad thing on defence is laughable, considering Gasol is as good as Duncan in every area on defence and is better in many areas like the pick and roll.

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    Chinook would rather let Kawhi go then let Splitter walk, not worth conversing with him. Spurs are doomed if they get rid of Tiago according to him. He's Tims successor apparently.

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    My thoughts on this thread:

    -people forget how good Tiago is when he's healthy (the health is obviously the huge thing)
    -Marc Gasol/Timmy frontcourt would get murdered defensively in the West
    -No to Big Al/Brook Lopez...those guys only make sense if TD retires. Even then, I'd rather just start over then sign a loser big tbh
    -Most likely scenario is the team striking out on Aldridge. Go after an O'Quinn and another bargain playmaker.

    Few tweaks here and there and go after it again next season tbh.

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    -people forget how good Tiago is when he's healthy (the health is obviously the huge thing)
    -Marc Gasol/Timmy frontcourt would get murdered defensively in the West
    Tiago is great, Gasol is better. Timmy/Gasol would be excellent defensively, what is it you think Splitter is better at than Marc?

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    My thoughts on this thread:

    -people forget how good Tiago is when he's healthy (the health is obviously the huge thing)
    -Marc Gasol/Timmy frontcourt would get murdered defensively in the West
    -No to Big Al/Brook Lopez...those guys only make sense if TD retires. Even then, I'd rather just start over then sign a loser big tbh
    -Most likely scenario is the team striking out on Aldridge. Go after an O'Quinn and another bargain playmaker.

    Few tweaks here and there and go after it again next season tbh.
    No one forgets how good tiago is when healthy. He just doesn't add anything on offense and the biggest factor here that people keep brushing aside like it doesn't warrant any news on, HE IS AN INJURY PRONE VAGINA. Sorry I don't want to stake the last few years of tim and manu on a 50/50 soft vagina.

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    The medical people don't even know WTF is wrong with tiago for s-sake.

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    Are people gonna be dumbfounded when he costs us another playoff run?

    I for one won't. Sometimes it's time to cut your losses.

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