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    This is a great discussion. It's good to see opinions differ like this. Good to see TP can be considered as such keep it up

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    Well lets start naming the all time greats according to most

    Magic
    Isiah
    Stockton
    Kidd
    Cousy
    Nash
    Paul
    West
    Frazier
    Payton

    That is not really in order.. I think he is right there with Steve Nash but that's about it..

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    No, but he probably has enough years left to get in the discussion. Don't think he will though.

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    I wouldn't say top 5 but definitely top 15. What has really hurt Parker is the lack of a jumpshot. This would have helped him in his early years when he struggled against defenses that would focus on clogging the paint and shutting him down.

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    Well lets start naming the all time greats according to most

    Magic
    Isiah
    Stockton
    Kidd
    Cousy
    Nash
    Paul
    West
    Frazier
    Payton

    That is not really in order.. I think he is right there with Steve Nash but that's about it..
    Are Nash, Stockton, and Kidd on this list because they stat padded for an extra 5 to 7 years?

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    TOP 5 of Spurs?

    Yes..

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    TOP 5 of Spurs?

    Yes..
    Top 3.


    I could see Parker in the 14-18 range on an all-time list, but since he never really was the alpha dog (it was always Duncan), he can't get much higher.

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    Top 3.


    I could see Parker in the 14-18 range on an all-time list, but since he never really was the alpha dog (it was always Duncan), he can't get much higher.
    I meant Spurs PG top 5..

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    Top 10, tbh. He can make it over Thomas if he switches his career around after 2 bad seasons IMO.


    Magic (no explanation needed)
    Big O (triple doubles without looking like a chimp)
    Jerry West (27, 5, & 6 career average. 10X first team. One time champ and FMVP)
    Cousy (6X champ, 8X assists leader, MVP. 18, 5, & 6 career average)
    Thomas (18 & 9 career average. 2X champ and 1FMVP. Three time First Team All-NBA)

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    Tim Hardaway, Iverson, Penny Hardaway

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    Top 10, tbh. He can make it over Thomas if he switches his career around after 2 bad seasons IMO.


    Magic (no explanation needed)
    Big O (triple doubles without looking like a chimp)
    Jerry West (27, 5, & 6 career average. 10X first team. One time champ and FMVP)
    Cousy (6X champ, 8X assists leader, MVP. 18, 5, & 6 career average)
    Thomas (18 & 9 career average. 2X champ and 1FMVP. Three time First Team All-NBA)

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    I thought West was a shooting guard.

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    5-10 debatable

    10-15 definitely

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    No ing way, and comparing him with Nash, just LOL! Change Parker with Nash and Spurs would've won like 15 rings in this span. NBA would've become predictable with a trio of Nash Manu Tim.

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    I thought West was a shooting guard.
    I thought Parker was too

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    No ing way, and comparing him with Nash, just LOL! Change Parker with Nash and Spurs would've won like 15 rings in this span. NBA would've become predictable with a trio of Nash Manu Tim.

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    Tony Parker vs Steve Nash

    Career Regular Season:
    Tony Parker: 16.9 PPG, 5.9 APG, 3.0 RPG, 0.9 SPG, 2.5 TOV, on .494 shooting
    Steve Nash: 14.3 PPF, 8.5 APG, 3.0 RPG, 0.7 SPG, 2.9 TOV, on .490 shooting

    Career Playoffs:
    Tony Parker: 18.6 PPG, 5.2 APG, 3.1 RPG, 0.9 SPG, 2.8 TOV, on .460 shooting
    Steve Nash: 17.3 PPG, 8.8 APG, 3.5 RPG, 0.6 SPG, 3.2 TOV, on .473 shooting

    Playoffs Head To Head:

    2003 - Spurs def. Mavericks 4-2
    Tony Parker: 16.3 PPG, 4.0 APG, 3.0 RPG, 1.0 SPG, 2.2 TOV, on .422 shooting
    Steve Nash: 14.8 PPG, 6.5 APG, 3.8 RPG, 0.8 SPG, 2.7 TOV, on .427 shooting

    2005 - Spurs def. Suns 4-1
    Tony Parker: 20.4 PPG, 4.2 APG, 3.0 RPG, 1.2 SPG, 4.0 TOV, on .459 shooting
    Steve Nash: 23.2 PPG, 10.6 APG, 3.8 RPG, 1.2 SPG, 4.4 TOV, on .522 shooting

    2007 - Spurs def Suns 4-2
    Tony Parker: 20.8 PPG, 5.7 APG, 2.8 RPG, 1.0 SPG, 3.5 TOV, on .451 shooting
    Steve Nash: 21.3 PPG, 12.7 APG, 3.7 RPG, 0.3 SPG, 4.5 TOV, on .484 shooting

    2008 - Spurs def Suns 4-1
    Tony Parker: 29.6 PPG, 7.0 APG, 3.4 RPG, 1.4 SPG, 3.2 TOV, on .523 shooting
    Steve Nash: 16.2 PPG, 7.8 APG, 2.8 RPG, 0.4 SPG, 2.4 TOV, on .457 shooting

    2010 - Suns def Spurs 4-0
    Tony Parker: 19.5 PPG, 5.0 APG, 4.0 RPG, 0.0 SPG, 2.8 TOV, on .479 shooting
    Steve Nash: 22.0 PPG, 7.8 APG, 4.5 RPG, 0.5 SPG, 4.5 TOV, on .557 shooting

    2013 - Spurs def Lakers 4-0
    Tony Parker: 22.3 PPG, 6.5 APG, 3.3 RPG, 1.3 SPG, 1.8 TOV, on .493 shooting
    Steve Nash: 12.5 PPG, 4.5 APG, 2.5 RPG, 0.0 SPG, 1.5 TOV, on .435 shooting
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    "Bad" Contract Comparison:

    Tony Parker 2014-15 ($12.5 million)
    14.4 PPG, 4.9 APG, 1.9 RPG, 0.6 SPG, 2.1 TOV, on .486 shooting

    Jason Kidd 2008-09 ($21.4 million)
    9.0 PPG, 8.7 APG, 6.2 RPG, 2.0 SPG, 2.3 TOV, on .416 shooting

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    I love TP but I am not making the top 5 all time argument. Top 5 of this era with or without Nash, yes, all time nope.

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    I hate John Stockton, but say what you want, no way he's not the 2nd best point guard of all time with his assist and steal records. Those are unbreakable. Sure, he never won a le, but so much can go into whether you win a le or not. KG would never have won one had he not been traded to Boston. If you want to say all-time great, then maybe Stockton is way down the list, but if you are talking about best point guard, he and Magic are at the top of the list. I do value les in saying that MJ was better than JS, but he was also a unique player at 6'9 and his ability to post up guards. But Tony's 4 les do not make him a better point guard than John Stockton.
    Jordan was 6'6". LeBron's 6'9". I think you're cofusing the two.

    But I agree, Stockton not being mentioned here is a joke. He was vastly superior to Parker despite the no rings. And I like Parker.

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