Grizzlies: Tony Allen = 90s and early 2000s ball..

[hitmanyr2k]

You can't be this re ed Tony Allen represents a minority in today's NBA and an overwhelming majority in the 90's. Jesus

No, Tony Allen represents today's era pretty good. They work at nothing, don't get any better, and come back year after year with the same old games. Why is Kawhi Leonard being compared to Pippen and Jordan and not to any of the players today? Because the players today don't have the skill sets of past players. Not even close. Even today's so-called best player in the world took 10 seasons to learn basic offensive fundamentals and skiils that 90's players were developing by their 3rd and 4th years. This is the chuck-a-three or bust era Any other skills be damned. The funny thing is these kind of teams were ridiculed because they couldn't win championships against the well-rounded teams that had inside/out games. Now chucker ball is the name of the game because skilled SFs, PFs and centers are scarce in the league. A mental midget unskilled Dwight Howard being the best big this era has to offer kind of says it all. He's a big man version of Tony Allen. 10+ years in this league and his best offensive move is to catch a lob Same goes for DeAndre Jordan and that MF is going to get max money This era is weaksauce.

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No, Tony Allen represents today's era pretty good. They work at nothing, don't get any better, and come back year after year with the same old games. Why is Kawhi Leonard being compared to Pippen and Jordan and not to any of the players today? Because the players today don't have the skill sets of past players. Not even close. Even today's so-called best player in the world took 10 seasons to learn basic offensive fundamentals and skiils that 90's players were developing by their 3rd and 4th years. This is the chuck-a-three or bust era Any other skills be damned. The funny thing is these kind of teams were ridiculed because they couldn't win championships against the well-rounded teams that had inside/out games. Now chucker ball is the name of the game because skilled SFs, PFs and centers are scarce in the league. A mental midget unskilled Dwight Howard being the best big this era has to offer kind of says it all. He's a big man version of Tony Allen. 10+ years in this league and his best offensive move is to catch a lob Same goes for DeAndre Jordan and that MF is going to get max money This era is weaksauce.

I've seen better here, but, I'll be damned if I can cite it.

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[AlexJones]

I'm out

[Spur-Addict]

No, Tony Allen represents today's era pretty good. They work at nothing, don't get any better, and come back year after year with the same old games. Why is Kawhi Leonard being compared to Pippen and Jordan and not to any of the players today? Because the players today don't have the skill sets of past players. Not even close. Even today's so-called best player in the world took 10 seasons to learn basic offensive fundamentals and skiils that 90's players were developing by their 3rd and 4th years. This is the chuck-a-three or bust era Any other skills be damned. The funny thing is these kind of teams were ridiculed because they couldn't win championships against the well-rounded teams that had inside/out games. Now chucker ball is the name of the game because skilled SFs, PFs and centers are scarce in the league. A mental midget unskilled Dwight Howard being the best big this era has to offer kind of says it all. He's a big man version of Tony Allen. 10+ years in this league and his best offensive move is to catch a lob Same goes for DeAndre Jordan and that MF is going to get max money This era is weaksauce.

Annnnnnnd a nuclear weapon has just exploded on this thread.

[lefty]

No, Tony Allen represents today's era pretty good. They work at nothing, don't get any better, and come back year after year with the same old games. Why is Kawhi Leonard being compared to Pippen and Jordan and not to any of the players today? Because the players today don't have the skill sets of past players. Not even close. Even today's so-called best player in the world took 10 seasons to learn basic offensive fundamentals and skiils that 90's players were developing by their 3rd and 4th years. This is the chuck-a-three or bust era Any other skills be damned. The funny thing is these kind of teams were ridiculed because they couldn't win championships against the well-rounded teams that had inside/out games. Now chucker ball is the name of the game because skilled SFs, PFs and centers are scarce in the league. A mental midget unskilled Dwight Howard being the best big this era has to offer kind of says it all. He's a big man version of Tony Allen. 10+ years in this league and his best offensive move is to catch a lob Same goes for DeAndre Jordan and that MF is going to get max money This era is weaksauce.

Damn


Malik Hairston and AlexJones got ethered

[Clipper Nation]

No, Tony Allen represents today's era pretty good. They work at nothing, don't get any better, and come back year after year with the same old games. Why is Kawhi Leonard being compared to Pippen and Jordan and not to any of the players today? Because the players today don't have the skill sets of past players. Not even close. Even today's so-called best player in the world took 10 seasons to learn basic offensive fundamentals and skiils that 90's players were developing by their 3rd and 4th years. This is the chuck-a-three or bust era Any other skills be damned. The funny thing is these kind of teams were ridiculed because they couldn't win championships against the well-rounded teams that had inside/out games. Now chucker ball is the name of the game because skilled SFs, PFs and centers are scarce in the league. A mental midget unskilled Dwight Howard being the best big this era has to offer kind of says it all. He's a big man version of Tony Allen. 10+ years in this league and his best offensive move is to catch a lob Same goes for DeAndre Jordan and that MF is going to get max money This era is weaksauce.

If only they had the work ethic of Derrick Coleman or Jim McIlvaine, then they'd really deserve big money. And it's a good thing Antoine Walker, Allen Iverson and Stephon Marbury never chucked like today's players!

[apalisoc_9]

If only they had the work ethic of Derrick Coleman or Jim McIlvaine, then they'd really deserve big money. And it's a good thing Antoine Walker, Allen Iverson and Stephon Marbury never chucked like today's players!

[DAF86]

Fluke 3 point chucker ball is why the Spurs are sitting home right now. When they couldn't hit threes what did they have to fall back on? Tony Parker dribbling around like a chicken with its head cut off clanking jumpers. Analytics

Are you really bringing the Spurs up? The team that got deep into the playoffs the previous 3 seasons. There's nothing flukey about that.

The only reason they lost in the first round this year is because they faced a fellow top 3 team in the league. Spurs would have loved to get the chance top sweep the Bulls but unfortunately they play in the Western conference.

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The only reason they lost in the first round this yeart is because they faced a fellow top 3 team in the league.

That's Pop's fault. He chose the Clippers.

[Infinite_limit]

Kyle Korver and Re are All Star quality in the current game. This means Steve Kerr would as well

Reggie Miller would be an MVP front runner in the current game

[daslicer]

Kyle Korver and Re are All Star quality in the current game. This means Steve Kerr would as well

Reggie Miller would be an MVP front runner in the current game

Korver and Red are not even as talented as Hornacek. If Horancek played in this era he would be a perennial all-star player.

[spurraider21]

There isn't a player in the NBA that symbolizes the 90s/early 2000s era of basketball better than Tony Allen, tbh..

Goon that is permitted to hand check and play physically, which is considered "great defense"..plays hard and physical, which fans love..can't shoot, kills spacing, the opposing team doesn't have to guard him..completely exposed by the Warriors, another great team relying on pace/space and analytics, the new, dominant NBA champion..

90's NBA players. Funny how you can be a perfect goon that is allowed to handcheck, hack offensive players, but with a terrible jumpshot you're out of an entire series.

wow, what a great, original take imo. its almost like the OP never said the exact same thing

[lefty]

Kyle Korver and Re are All Star quality in the current game. This means Steve Kerr would as well

Reggie Miller would be an MVP front runner in the current game

Excellent post tbh

[~O~]

No, Tony Allen represents today's era pretty good. They work at nothing, don't get any better, and come back year after year with the same old games. Why is Kawhi Leonard being compared to Pippen and Jordan and not to any of the players today? Because the players today don't have the skill sets of past players. Not even close. Even today's so-called best player in the world took 10 seasons to learn basic offensive fundamentals and skiils that 90's players were developing by their 3rd and 4th years. This is the chuck-a-three or bust era Any other skills be damned. The funny thing is these kind of teams were ridiculed because they couldn't win championships against the well-rounded teams that had inside/out games. Now chucker ball is the name of the game because skilled SFs, PFs and centers are scarce in the league. A mental midget unskilled Dwight Howard being the best big this era has to offer kind of says it all. He's a big man version of Tony Allen. 10+ years in this league and his best offensive move is to catch a lob Same goes for DeAndre Jordan and that MF is going to get max money This era is weaksauce.

This.....

[Clipper Nation]

wow, what a great, original take imo. its almost like the OP never said the exact same thing

Philo butthurt as usual.

[AlexJones]

wow, what a great, original take imo. its almost like the OP never said the exact same thing

Would it please your vagina if I added, "like the OP said"? Funny how you deleted the ESPN article out of my quote as if I wasn't reiterating the OP's point in the first place by providing the article.

[DMC]

From Ethan Strauss of ESPN.com


It began on the plane before Game 3, when assistant coach and all-around defensive guru Ron Adams suggested something bizarre. What if Andrew Bogut guarded Tony Allen as though Allen were a non-shooting center? The airborne coaching staff murmured that such a move could really confound Memphis, and they filed the idea away. There was a process between invention and implementation, though. The Warriors had to lose Game 3, had to get desperate enough to try the weird tactic.

"We told the guys, 'We're going to do this the first three possessions of the game, and we'll see how it goes,'” Kerr said of his directions before Game 4.
As much sense as the gambit made, there was some internal anxiety over how it would all play out.

Allen hit his first shot. Then he missed a 3-pointer. And another. And another. Before seven minutes had passed, Allen was yanked from a game in which he’d go on to play only 16 minutes. Allen, struggling with a hamstring injury, went on to see only five more minutes of the series. Although Allen was certainly hurt, Golden State’s move made him essentially unplayable (multiple Warriors conceded as much after Game 4). This was a massive strategic concession by the Grizzlies, considering how Allen had been dominating defensively. He might have been the best player in the series to that point, and he was taken off the chessboard with one move.


90's NBA players. Funny how you can be a perfect goon that is allowed to handcheck, hack offensive players, but with a terrible jumpshot you're out of an entire series. You can legitimately argue that only DK, Reggie, maybe Drexler can survive in today's NBA.

Why is it that every mother er in the NBA who's being a liability on offense has an undisclosed injury? Is the NBA so desperate to maintain the face of their product that they have disclaimers for every up?

[DMC]

wow, what a great, original take imo. its almost like the OP never said the exact same thing

You are becoming the NBA forum's version of Chump Dumper, just a passive aggressive post grader.

Did you think your response added to the discussion?

[spurraider21]

You are becoming the NBA forum's version of Chump Dumper, just a passive aggressive post grader.

Did you think your response added to the discussion?

No less than yours