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    @ Marcus make it seem as though the four horseman are about to swing down and start the apacolypse because Devin is not in SA.

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    Again,

    You let him go to Utah for a year, prove his back is healthy, get some experience, then bring him back down the road.

    Utah keeps him for two years and then locks him up long term.

    Again, you lose talent for nothing and talent that could be quite necessary next offseason, if not during the upcoming season.

    being cheap.

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    Again, would you s&t Brown for Ebi?

    You have an entire year to evaluate the guy that apparently you were ready to draft a few years ago.

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    Again, would you s&t Brown for Ebi?

    You have an entire year to evaluate the guy that apparently you were ready to draft a few years ago.

    I don't believe they could sign and trade him, but a straight up trade could be a possibility, when Brown is eligible to be traded.

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    i was pretty sure they could S&T but just not to Utah.

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    Again, would you s&t Brown for Ebi?

    You have an entire year to evaluate the guy that apparently you were ready to draft a few years ago.
    I don't know if a team is allowed to do a S&T after a player dign an offer sheet with a third team.
    Ebi for Brown doesn't work (Ebi salary is not enough).
    More players should be included something like :
    Rasho+Devin for kandiman and Ebi.

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    they will hold their preseason training camp at the Taco Bell Arena

    No quiero Taco Bell Devin !!

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    He signed the deal with Utah. You can't change the terms of the contract. But if the Spurs match then the Spurs could trade him whenever they can trade one of their own free agents who they re-signed, which is immediately, IIRC.

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    http://members.cox.net/lmcoon/salarycap.htm#84

    84. When can't a player be traded? Can players be given "no-trade" clauses in their contracts?

    A "no-trade" clause can be negotiated into an individual contract if the player has been in the NBA for at least eight seasons, and has played for the team with which he is signing for at least four seasons. They don't have to be the immediately prior four seasons -- for example, Horace Grant got a no-trade clause from Orlando when he signed with them in 2001. He had played for Orlando for four seasons, but had played for Seattle and Los Angeles in the interim. Very few players actually have one of these no-trade provisions. Otherwise, individually negotiated contracts may not contain no-trade clauses. The no-trade clause prevents the team from making a trade involving the player without the player's consent.

    In addition, teams cannot trade players under the following cir stances:

    • For two months after receiving the player in trade, if the player is being traded in combination with other players. However, the team is free to trade the player by himself (not packaged with other players) immediately. This two-month restriction applies only to teams over the salary cap. (Also see question number 71 for a special case where players can be traded together in less than two months.)


    • When the trading deadline has passed. Teams are free to make trades again once their season has ended, but cannot trade players whose contracts are ending or could end due to an option.


    • For three months or until December 15th of that season (whichever is later) after signing a contract as a free agent or draft rookie. (Note: This does not apply to players who sign contract extensions or who renegotiate their existing contracts. These players may be traded immediately.)


    • When the player is playing under a one-year contract and will have Larry Bird or Early Bird rights at the end of the contract. Note: This includes first round draft picks following their fourth (option) season, who accept their team's qualifying offer for their fifth season.


    • For one year after exercising the right of first refusal to keep a restricted free agent (however, the player can consent to a trade to any team except the team that tried to sign him).


    • After claiming a player on waivers, for 30 days if the player was claimed during a season, or until the first day of the next season if the player was claimed during the offseason.


    • A team cannot reacquire a player they traded away during that season (a season being July 1 - June 30) unless the player has been waived.


    There seems to be a lot of confusion about the first bullet item above. A lot of media mistakenly report that a player cannot be re-traded for two months under any cir stances, even by himself. This is not true -- Danny Manning's trade from Phoenix to Orlando, and soon thereafter to Milwaukee is one example of the correct application of this trade rule. Other media reports confuse the sign-and-trade rule with this one, claiming that the player can be re-traded within 48 hours or after 60 days, but not in between.
    The fourth bullet item above (players with one-year contracts can't be traded if they will be a Bird or Early Bird free agent) has an interesting implication. If a player has a two-year contract, but the second year is an option year, then the league treats it like a one-year contract and does not allow the player to be traded. If the option is exercised and the contract becomes a true two-year contract, then the player is tradeable. The Phoenix Suns had to exercise their team option on Corrie Blount before trading him to Golden State on 1/26/01.
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    So basically if another team has an interest in Brown, the Spurs can match and then if he agrees the Spurs can trade him to that team. Any team except the Jazz.

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    wow nice comeback. Those comments alone proves I am right. Your welcome

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    Actually, it proves that your comments do not warrant a real response.

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    Actually, it proves that your comments do not warrant a real response.
    Denial

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    Denial about what? Pointing out that team management and ownership just let talent walk without any compensation whatsoever?

    Just remember 2005. Another championship banner the Pistons won't be getting.

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    Utah keeps him for two years and then locks him up long term.

    Again, you lose talent for nothing and talent that could be quite necessary next offseason, if not during the upcoming season.

    being cheap.
    You're proving quite the hypocrite. All those years you argued with Ghost Writer about being fiscally responsible, and now you're nutting yourself over the Spurs not ponying up 5 million a year for their 12th man. Ironic to say the least.

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    I argued with Ghost about being critical about moves that were not possible per the collective bargaining agreement.

    Try again.

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