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    But no, let's ing cheer when Holt Cat saves a few bucks.
    Yeah, he should have grabbed the vaseline for himself and paid 5 million dollars a year for an end of bench towel waver.

    If you want that I hear Jack Haley is looking for work.

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    Yeah, he should have grabbed the vaseline for himself and paid 5 million dollars a year for an end of bench towel waver.

    If you want that I hear Jack Haley is looking for work.

    Come next season when NVE retires, Finley leaves and Barry is, well, Barry, we can all rejoice at the fact that Holt Cat saved a few bucks.

    *slurp* up that nut, AHF.

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    So, there will be no young guards left in the league after next season?

    This falls under "worry later."

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    Maybe, perhaps, maybe the Spurs could keep a Glenn Robinson (who apparently at the moment is struggling to find a home in this league) for the min with the carrot of a payday next summer when the Spurs will have his Early Bird rights.

    But my God! A half million for an end of the bench player!?!?! Holt Cat can't have that. After all, he's gotta feed his kids.

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    This falls under "worry later."
    Exactly what I meant by my prior post.

    But I was just noting that Spurs fans shouldn't be rejoicing that the Spurs are set for years to come.

    They are in awesome shape for the upcoming season, however. And that's all that really matters to me right now.

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    Exactly what I meant by my prior post.

    But I was just noting that Spurs fans shouldn't be rejoicing that the Spurs are set for years to come.

    They are in awesome shape for the upcoming season, however. And that's all that really matters to me right now.

    True, but the newfound depth is somewhat illusory. Maybe they can find a young swing as good as DB. Maybe.

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    Maybe, perhaps, maybe the Spurs could keep a Glenn Robinson (who apparently at the moment is struggling to find a home in this league) for the min with the carrot of a payday next summer when the Spurs will have his Early Bird rights.

    But my God! A half million for an end of the bench player!?!?! Holt Cat can't have that. After all, he's gotta feed his kids.

    That still doesn't solve the age issue....Our bench is old. As long as our young guys stay healthy it's fine...but if they don't...2001 all over again.

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    But I was just noting that Spurs fans shouldn't be rejoicing that the Spurs are set for years to come.
    I agree, but given the holes this team has had to fill in the past (e.g., signing Bruce for the minimum when he was the ONLY decent SF available), I can't be overly worried right now. Now I can just wait for the training camp roster to see if a Devin replacement could be in the pipeline.

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    Rodney White, Theron Smith, Jason Kapono ... hmm the list is getting pretty short of players who can be had this summer who could fill a Devin Brown like role. Even in an emergency situation.

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    That still doesn't solve the age issue....Our bench is old. As long as our young guys stay healthy it's fine...but if they don't...2001 all over again.

    Well, he would be great insurance to have for the end of the bench. Considering that it seems likely the Spurs will be making at least one trade in the near year, he would be useful either for depth afterwards or as a trade sweetener.

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    He will be missed.

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    Rodney White, Theron Smith, Jason Kapono ... hmm the list is getting pretty short of players who can be had this summer who could fill a Devin Brown like role. Even in an emergency situation.
    Problem is, if they are balking at 1 year for $2.5 mil, they will likely have a problem paying any of those guys right now.

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    Free-agents want to come here now, remember?

    Devin does fit the bill for what we *might* need next year, or the following year, but he isn't the only option. He might not even be the best option.

    What if his injury resurfaces this season?

    There are other young swingmen who are taller, younger, or cheaper that will fit what we're looking for just as well as Devin can.

    You make it sound like he's irreplaceable. How many undersized swingmen are there floating around in the league?

    Losing Devin Brown = Spurs Championship window closed after this year

    Are you serious? There are no options available beyond Devin ing Brown?

    You're damn right I'm on Holt's nuts. I'm on Pop's nuts, too. They brought us a Championship last year, and they've positioned themselves to do it again.

    Oh, but they let Devin Brown get away. We should stage a coup. They're obviously totally incompetent.

    Go root for the Jazz...they're a lock this year. And next.

    Devin Brown = Championship

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    You win some. you lose some.

    it's not like the spurs lost something big..

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    Problem is, if they are balking at 1 year for $2.5 mil, they will likely have a problem paying any of those guys right now.
    I doubt any of these guys get more than the minimum -- and there's always the "player to be named later" currently on no one's radar.

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    That still doesn't solve the age issue....Our bench is old. As long as our young guys stay healthy it's fine...but if they don't...2001 all over again.
    ...so as insurance for a healthy squad, we should turn to Ironman Devin Brown?

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    Spurs fans quickly forget what happened between 1999 and 2003. The Spurs got old and slow on the perimeter and other teams in the league, namely the Lakers, used that flaw to embarrass the team. I remember Kobe hounding Terry Porter full court and Shaq bending over Danny Ferry.

    The Spurs need a young athlete at the swing position to come off the bench. Devin fit the bill.

    Now this year with the addition of Finley, they can probably survive without that. But sooner than Spurs fans realize, it will become a glaring hole if the Spurs don't plug it.

    Remember 2001.

    And I'm sure the Spurs will find someone to replace Brown next year if needed. Don't make it seem as if Brown isn't or couldn't be replaced. it's not the end of the world.

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    Oh, but they let Devin Brown get away. We should stage a coup. They're obviously totally incompetent.

    Go root for the Jazz...they're a lock this year. And next.

    Devin Brown = Championship
    There you go with your textbook exagerations.

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    They haven't won the le every season. TD doesn't have time to wait forever. You can go ahead and try to justify the loss of talent on account of the cheapness of ownership, an ownership that has ing enjoyed having 2nd and 3rd stars on low money contracts while feasting on the lux tax distributions they got from the rest of the league, but I'm not. I don't give a about how much ownership is going to get hurt if for once they have to spend a little. Between the arena deal and the lux tax program the Spurs have been raking in the $. Maybe that's what you care about as a Spurs fan, but frankly I could give a less. I just saw the Spurs lose a talented young guard for nothing in return. ing awesome.

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    And I'm sure the Spurs will find someone to replace Brown next year if needed.
    If needed?

    They'll have to find someone next summer (and I'm sure they will). Finley's contract will be up, Barry will be 35, and Devin isn't here anymore.

    Devin was good insurance to have because Finley's contract is (reportedly) only one season.

    Next summer, the Spurs will need to find TWO backup swingmen. One to replace Finley and one to replace Barry. Plus they'll have to deal with/figure out the Rasho/Nazr situation.

    This summer was incredible - the Spurs got awesome short term pickups in Finley and NVE. And someone who might play well in Oberto.

    Next summer, they'll be a lot more gaps.

    I'm not fretting it. I'm just saying that the Spurs aren't a "lock" for a dynasty. They'll have big holes next summer.

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    With how hard the Spurs tried to trade players to bring Devin back in, you can assume that Pop and RC weren't on the "let Devin Brown walk, we can find someone better" boat. They wanted him to stay ... but instead, he became a luxury tax casualty.

    I'm hoping the Spurs can pull another rabbit out of their hat and get another swingman gem on the cheap, but if that was so easy what happened between 1999 and 2003? All I remember was Terry Porter bringing the ball up and the Lakers treating him like live bait to their piranha.

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    Who was the last player signed for $2.5 million by a team over the tax threshold for the express purpose of being a 12th man?

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    Who was the last player signed for $2.5 million by a team over the tax threshold for the express purpose of being a 12th man?

    What was the last team in such a position?

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    When needed.

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    Who was the last player signed for $2.5 million by a team over the tax threshold for the express purpose of being a 12th man?
    Well they weren't planning on him being the 12th man. They were trying to deal somone else so that he could be in the rotation.

    That didn't work out.

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