My condolences. Maybe you should refrain from reading this forum for awhile...we don't have the most sensitive participants known; I doubt many will consider your feelings before posting.
My condolences. Maybe you should refrain from reading this forum for awhile...we don't have the most sensitive participants known; I doubt many will consider your feelings before posting.
i didnt know her very well, elpimpo is to be commended for facilitating transportation of the body to texas and free funeral expenses
Hey, doesn't the subject of hating bush belong in the "gay marriage rights in Cali" thread?
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It shows the media grew a spine.
Good for them.
Yeah. I mean, NO!! I mean, huh?
(note: RG gets the humor, and thinks it is funny)
I think Jon Stewart had it nailed when he said:
"Ever notice that the people who don't want to play the blame game, are always the ones to blame?"
Just to play Devil's advocate, we do have a freedom of press in this country. The reason CNN got a federal judge to grant them a restraining order against FEMA is because FEMA had told them they wouldn't be allowed to go in and film any of the removal of bodies. Give CNN a little credit in that they're not generally a network that is going to sensationalize this (anymore than any other network, at least; is that fair?). They simply want the right to film what's happening and decide what to report.
This evening Anderson Cooper made a decent point: He said some people say it's disrespectful to film the dead, but he felt it was disrespectful when he was riding around with the military and they were passing by dead bodies instead of pulling them out of the water for 2 weeks.
Anyway, that's my two cents. I don't personally want to see dead bodies on TV, but that's the point of our Bill of Rights: just because you don't like it doesn't mean you can tell someone not to do it.
It's not that they don't show those pictures from Iraq because people got tired of them. They don't show them because they don't want people to see our soliders coming coming back in body bags and coffins because it undermines support for the War/actions in Iraq.
There is a similar dymanic that goes on in this situation. Showing the bodies in NO angers people into asking questions. Who was at fault and why? The blame game starts and people start pointing fingers. I'm sure the government would prefer to wait until Katrina coverage reaches a point of oversaturation before images like those come out, if ever.
But no one should want to start the blame game just yet, especially at a time when everyone needs to focus on recovery. Take care of the people now and figure it all out later.
I personally don't want to see images of dead people in NO. I actually think it's disrespectful. We all know there are a lot of people dead there and I don't need the images to prove it.
But I can look away when the images are broadcast.
The truth is that we need coverage of such a historical event and CNN is just doing what they think they need to do to get the full, unbiased coverage opportunity. It is through the press that we get a large part of our recent do ented history and a pool of information to draw on for the future telling of past events.
I don't want to see this particular segment of coverage but I'll defend CNNs right to cover it if they choose to do so.
Yeah, and it's obvious that until they start showing dead and bloated bodies, no one will be asking whose at fault or playing the blame game.Showing the bodies in NO angers people into asking questions. Who was at fault and why?![]()
Of course not! That's obviously what I meant. I mean, without viewing rotting corpses, who the f*ck is going to ask questions about a poorly handled national disaster where hundreds, if not thousands of additional people may have lost their lives due to a poor response from officials at multiple levels of government?
It's fairly obvious people are/will be asking questions regarding the handling of the pre- and post-Katrina efforts. But what I'm trying to say is that the goverment doesn't want the average joe off the streets to develop strong opinions about what happened/is happening down there.
Yes, everyone feels bad for the people affected by this tragedy but for the most part, they view a couple of minutes of coverage and go on about their day. Everyone sees the images of the city underwater so some focus (not all the focus) is on the loss of the city, not the loss of life.
If you start showing images of dead bodies bobbing in the water a couple of weeks after the tragedy of Katrina, even your average person starts asking questions. Disturbing images like that could be the difference between viewing the situation with sadness and viewing the situation with anger. Even more people will want to know who is to blame and will be calling for action.
Again, do we need to see the dead bodies to ask questions? No. I've followed the situation closer than your average person and I've got more questions than there will ever be answers. And I definitely don't want to see the bodies. Again, I do think it's disrespectful and I'm angry enough at the overall situation as it is. The last thing the government wants to do is have images out that move the focus from what is being done to what wasn't done. The last thing they want is any anger public screaming for answers.
The government's policy isn't because of some callous "wanting to prevent people from developing opinions/asking questions." That's a ridiculous argument.
And it's pretty damn obvious that people are already asking those questions and there will be more investigation.
The government's trying to show some respect for the dead, which is more than can be said for asshats like CNN.But what I'm trying to say is that the goverment doesn't want the average joe off the streets to develop strong opinions about what happened/is happening down there.
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