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    Just remember if Spurs don't keep Danny it was because of Parker.
    yeah...good point. probably would have gone under the radar here

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    Just remember if Spurs don't keep Danny it was because of Parker.
    yes because parker is responsible for holt agreeing with pop about the money to give tp
    if spurs did not want to pay him that much they would have let him WALK

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    I guess I'm somehow hoping he has really learned the Spurs way and gives them a discount. There has to be some sort of loyalty for all the Spurs have done for him. I mean that has to count for something, right? I don't see him being the Stephen Jackson type that is all about the money. He's a good dude. 9 million is still alot of money for someone that has been making around 3 per and less.

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    Here's a hypothetical: Danny goes to the Spurs FO and says "Dallas offered me __ years and $__ million. I'll stay if you offer the same thing."

    What numbers cause the Spurs to say no? 4 and 60?

    And just to make sure, only the Spurs can give Danny a 5th year, right? Would that affect the Spurs' ability to offer other 5-year contracts down the road? I know that giving Kawhi 5 years doesn't prevent the Spurs from offering Danny 5 also.
    The Spurs can give Kawhi, Cory and Danny five-year deals this off-season with no consequence on their ability to give other five-year deals. They simply can't give more than one player signed to a five-year extension off a rookie contract.

    I'd totally go five if it meant lowering the APY. $55M/5 is much more appealing than $48M/4, especially if it's structured on a descending structure (less than $9 Million his final season). Can even make the last year non-guaranteed.

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    yes because parker is responsible for holt agreeing with pop about the money to give tp
    if spurs did not want to pay him that much they would have let him WALK
    Buford was probably drunk when he made the offer. If this was sex it would be rape.

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    The Spurs can give Kawhi, Cory and Danny five-year deals this off-season with no consequence on their ability to give other five-year deals. They simply can't give more than one player signed to a five-year extension off a rookie contract.

    I'd totally go five if it meant lowering the APY. $55M/5 is much more appealing than $48M/4, especially if it's structured on a descending structure (less than $9 Million his final season). Can even make the last year non-guaranteed.
    Thanks for the info about 5-year contracts. I would also give that extra year to Danny to see if he lets the average per year go down. A non-guaranteed 5th year, though, makes it basically a 4-year contract and the Mavs might offer something pretty rich for 4 years.

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    Buford was probably drunk when he made the offer. If this was sex it would be rape.
    Nah, the FO thought that 2013-2014 was a blip and that Tony could at least approach his days of getting MVP votes. Nobody saw this past season from Parker coming.

    It was still a bad idea to extend Parker, but the FO has a way of doing business and Parker's extension fits in with that.

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    Nah, the FO thought that 2013-2014 was a blip and that Tony could at least approach his days of getting MVP votes. Nobody saw this past season from Parker coming.

    It was still a bad idea to extend Parker, but the FO has a way of doing business and Parker's extension fits in with that.
    I guess they had their beer goggles on because very few guards over the age of 30 who depend on speed have that kind of staying power.

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    Thanks for the info about 5-year contracts. I would also give that extra year to Danny to see if he lets the average per year go down. A non-guaranteed 5th year, though, makes it basically a 4-year contract and the Mavs might offer something pretty rich for 4 years.
    Well they can make it guaranteed based on certain milestones or they can add incentives to make it much better. Incentives could boost the total value of the deal to $63.25 Million, which is way more than anyone else would offer. If those milestones are steep enough, then Danny would only get that much money if he's really awesome. If that's the case, no one should think he doesn't deserve it.

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    4 years at 44 is a good deal.

    Yes, it is. I was referring to the 5-yr/$75M proposal.

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    robinson was tough to replace
    we got a player named duncan
    Uh, we got nazr and rasho. And. You should never cite Tim Duncan as a precedent. It's way too lucky. Every team not named Lakers had tried to get a Duncan and failed.

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    didnt they blow their load on parsons?
    They should have about $21 million to spend after cap holds for roster spots under 12 and after their first round pick, assuming Ellis doesn't opt out (which I think is a good assumption since he gets $9 million this year and can get a big bump next season with the high cap).

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    Buford was probably drunk when he made the offer. If this was sex it would be rape.
    Yeah that's exactly what he was thinking after 2014 le.
    We could have won it with Patty at PG...

    STFU.

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    Buford was probably drunk when he made the offer. If this was sex it would be rape.

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    Green ranks very well in virtually every advanced metric, tbh..if this was 5 years ago, he wouldn't get paid nearly as much because his offensive game isn't aesthetically pleasing, but I'm today's data-driven NBA, he deserves a ton of money considering the current climate of the league both on and off the court..

    40%+ 3 shooter, one of the 3-5 best shooters in the history of the playoffs, 2nd tier defender, understands system basketball..not many fit that criteria..

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    Green ranks very well in virtually every advanced metric, tbh..if this was 5 years ago, he wouldn't get paid nearly as much because his offensive game isn't aesthetically pleasing, but I'm today's data-driven NBA, he deserves a ton of money considering the current climate of the league both on and off the court..

    40%+ 3 shooter, one of the 3-5 best shooters in the history of the playoffs, 2nd tier defender, understands system basketball..not many fit that criteria..
    His lack of ball handling as a guard and the inability to create demands he lands in the right situation of where there are many. I think there are a number of teams he fits very well. Hope he stays, but actually he will be less useful with us unless Tony does a U turn and Manu finds a body. He needs to land with a good distributing guard and ideally also with a forward who can handle.

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    Verde aint leaving.

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    It seems that Mavs always have $10+ million of cap space to spend each year and the Spurs always seem to have zero cap space to spend each year.

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    I guess they had their beer goggles on because very few guards over the age of 30 who depend on speed have that kind of staying power.
    very few...or zero

    I can't think of any PG that relied on their speed that played effectively into their 30's.

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    is Cuban trying to make spurs pay more for green then they want to like he did with parsons but ended up with him

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    Get him a player development coach but the Spurs have to retain him.

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    Well they can make it guaranteed based on certain milestones or they can add incentives to make it much better. Incentives could boost the total value of the deal to $63.25 Million, which is way more than anyone else would offer. If those milestones are steep enough, then Danny would only get that much money if he's really awesome. If that's the case, no one should think he doesn't deserve it.
    How do incentives on contract hold against the salary cap?

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    Green ranks very well in virtually every advanced metric, tbh..if this was 5 years ago, he wouldn't get paid nearly as much because his offensive game isn't aesthetically pleasing, but I'm today's data-driven NBA, he deserves a ton of money considering the current climate of the league both on and off the court..

    40%+ 3 shooter, one of the 3-5 best shooters in the history of the playoffs, 2nd tier defender, understands system basketball..not many fit that criteria..
    With all the talk of data - you refuse to take any of this year's playoff games into consideration.

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    Green ranks very well in virtually every advanced metric, tbh..if this was 5 years ago, he wouldn't get paid nearly as much because his offensive game isn't aesthetically pleasing, but I'm today's data-driven NBA, he deserves a ton of money considering the current climate of the league both on and off the court..

    40%+ 3 shooter, one of the 3-5 best shooters in the history of the playoffs, 2nd tier defender, understands system basketball..not many fit that criteria..


    He had one good series and now he is an all time best shooter. Let's see we have Larry Bird, Reggie Miller, and Danny Green at number 3.
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    Doesn't strike me as one of Cuban's annual mercenary vets. What are Mo Williams and Sam Dalembert doing these days?

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