Let Green Walk

[Raven]

Those players will make a 1/4 of what green will make and will do an "adequate" Job of filling the void. It all about value buddy boy and paying Green anything over 10mil is severely overpaying. The spurs didn't get to where they are now by overpaying mediocre players. They paid the big 3 and would put cogs around them at reasonable $.

exactly. todays big three is tiago, kawhi and danny.

[cjw]

Better to overpay Green by a couple million and still have a chance to compete, than lose him for nothing and have absolutely no shot.

With the cap continuing to go up, the contract will be a lower and lower % of the cap each year. He just turned 28 and will be 32 when the contract expires. The last year of the contract may see some decline in ability, but he'll be expiring by then.

I'd be totally in favor of signing Danny to a declining value deal where he gets paid more in year 1 than 4. Something other teams will have trouble offering and will give even more flexibility in future years (team will be over the cap anyway once his cap hold goes away).

[LakerHater]

Mavericks Targeting Danny Green In Free Agency (reports @ShamsCharania): http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238326/Mavericks-Targeting-Danny-Green-As-Monta-Ellis-Pursues-Deal-On-East-Coast …

[Malik Hairston]

If you let Green walk in exchange for getting an Aldridge or big name, impact player, that's fine..

If you let him walk so you can sign Arron Afflalo and Brandon Bass, then that would be a ing disaster..

[look_at_g_shred]

Better to overpay Green by a couple million and still have a chance to compete, than lose him for nothing and have absolutely no shot.

With the cap continuing to go up, the contract will be a lower and lower % of the cap each year. He just turned 28 and will be 32 when the contract expires. The last year of the contract may see some decline in ability, but he'll be expiring by then.

I'd be totally in favor of signing Danny to a declining value deal where he gets paid more in year 1 than 4. Something other teams will have trouble offering and will give even more flexibility in future years (team will be over the cap anyway once his cap hold goes away).

No one seems to understand this right here ( or I should say alot of people) without Green we are a sub-par team. End of story.

[RD2191]

[cjw]

No one seems to understand this right here ( or I should say alot of people) without Green we are a sub-par team. End of story.

People take everything too personally and don't think big picture. You play with the hand you're dealt. This isn't NBA 2K where you can make 30 back-to-back trades and turn Nando de Colo and a second round pick into a viable starter.

[Raven]

a lot of people don't seem to understand the way the Spurs are constructed..

You want a wing that can create his own shot AND play good defense? Ok, so do I..too bad there are only 7 or 8 of them in the NBA(Butler, Thompson, George, Middleton, maybe Matthews post-injury, Kawhi, LeBron, ?)

You want a wing playmaker, regardless of defense? Ok, good luck pairing him with Tony Parker in the backcourt and especially when Boris is on the floor with them ..you want a wing scorer starting on a team that already struggles to get Kawhi enough touches?

You want Kawhi to carry the entire load on defense, which will severely affect his offense? You could play Splitter more for defense, but how do you space the floor with Parker/Kawhi/Duncan/Splitter?

Thats not even factoring the "fit" and chemistry part, too..

middleton can't really create his own shot though

[K...]

Does op actually understand nba salaries? A veteran starting player of any position should earn at least $10 mill.

Also lol at HH taking a hot wet on kawhi Leonard. Player fan crew gonna go into a tizzy

[manufan10]

[look_at_g_shred]

OP finally off himself??

[apalisoc_9]

[Juan]

10M or under you def keep him. 12M tough call. 15M bye.

[Chomag]

8-9 mil for very good a systems roll player sounds about right to me. No way is he worth over 10 mil.

[peacemaker885]

Should DG walk, what do you guys think of Aaron Aflfalo? Hard working, blue collar type player.

[benstanfield]

He's been VERY underrated in his time with the Spurs, but I could see him falling off a STEEP cliff around 29/30 like Thabo Sefalosha. He isn't a hand of god shooter like Kyle Korver, so when the lateral quickness goes he could go from a top 5 3&D player to Mike Miller in the course of a year.

[Shabazz]

Dude is overrated AF. Can't dribble, streaky 3 point shooter, gambles on defense, avg athleticism, overrated 1v1 defender, no midrange, no penetration, can't create own shot. He is the epitome of a system player let some other team make the mistake of paying him 50-45mil/4yr. Spurs would be alot better off giving someone like Brewer, Ellington, stuckey, Shved, Singler, Afflalo a contract for half of what green will get and spending the $ elsewhere like LMA, Love, Gasol. Green doesn't even play in late game situations its usually Parker/Manu/Kawhi/Diaw/Duncan. Can't pay 10-13$ mil to a player who doesn't finish games and except to content for a chip.

he is one of the best 3-and-D players in the league. He can nail 3's on one end and lock up Steph Curry on the other end. He is so good at defensive transition, he actually stopped Lebron repeatedly the fast break. He led all shooting guards in blocked shots.

you smoke rock if you'd rather have Kyle Singler. Crack rocks.

[TheGoldStandard]

Should DG walk, what do you guys think of Aaron Aflfalo? Hard working, blue collar type player.

Oft injured and a defensive sieve

[spurraider21]

Green ranks as an elite defender by virtually every advanced statistical measure..Synergy has him as a top 4 best 1 on 1 wing defender in the league among starters ..that + 40% 3-point shooter is virtually impossible to find..

I love fans that don't watch basketball outside of the Spurs, too..look at the names on that list

Corey Brewer is terrible at everything basketball-related outside of fast breaks, Afflalo is an awful defender and declining on offenee, Stuckey would be a poor fit with Parker and everybody else on your list sucks..

The Spurs "system" is also becoming severely over-emphasized..there are a bunch of teams in the league that make role players fit well, it's not exclusive to the Spurs..

to be fair, would anybody be a good fit with parker?

[tholdren]

If the system is so great why were the Spurs failing so hard to fill the spot Green does for years?

Hedo Turkoglu? - not athletic, couldn't defend
Ime Udoka? - couldn't shoot a three
Micheal Finley? - came to spurs at 32
Keith Bogans? couldn't shoot a three
Roger Mason Jr? had no offensive or defensive game
Richard Jefferson? Uncertain why this didn't work out - Roger Dorn Syndrome
James Anderson? Who?

These names ring a bell? Such a great system should have made them top notch role players?

[TXstbobcat]

4 years $40 million. Keep verde in a Spurs uniform.

[SpursFanInAustin]

If the system is so great why were the Spurs failing so hard to fill the spot Green does for years?

Hedo Turkoglu?
Ime Udoka?
Micheal Finley?
Keith Bogans?
Roger Mason Jr?
Richard Jefferson?
James Anderson?

These names ring a bell? Such a great system should have made them top notch role players?

Turkoglu and Finley were terrible defenders but good 3 shooters and could get by with them starting because Bowen was still in his prime to defend elite wings. Once Bowen aged/retired (2008-09), we were screwed until Kawhi came along.

[spurraider21]

apalisoc_9

OP is a kawhi leonard fan who thinks green is overrated

i thought that was what tony parker playerfans did

[dabom]

[AFBlue]

They paid Richard Jefferson 4 yr/40 million to stick around. If the Spurs can "overpay" for RJ, they can do the same for Danny Green, who has proven his value enough on this team. "adequate". Let me know when any of those replacements shut down the best PGs in the league or shoot over 40% from 3 in the playoffs. People seem to be forgetting how hot Danny was the past two runs before this year, but of course people only focus on him when he's struggling. I'm not even overrating Green. But it's amazing how some of you underrate him still.

They had no cap space to lure bigtime free agents when they offered Jefferson that deal, and they traded his ass less than halfway through the deal. Green may just be a casualty of the bigger strategy and numbers. I don't think he's eminently replaceable, but you have to look at the opportunity cost of keeping him at $10-12M/yr.