Nbadan...I found your family.

[Cant_Be_Faded]

jochhejaam <-----Wishes to express dissent but doesn't want to be banned.


Dissent; "no" (should be safe with that)

You're closer to the truth in your assessment of dan than you are with tro.
Dan's an incessant critic with an insatiable appe e for dogging the President and his administration.
TRO seems to fight for the traditional values that made America a great nation but are now in danger of being uprooted from out society by socialist, anti-american influences that have infiltrated all branches of government.
They don't both reside in looneyville.

Maybe in the land of Pirates and Carribean fortresses, I mean far-rightness.

[Kori Ellis]

You're closer to the truth in your assessment of dan than you are with tro.
Dan's an incessant critic with an insatiable appe e for dogging the President and his administration.
TRO seems to fight for the traditional values that made America a great nation but are now in danger of being uprooted from out society by socialist, anti-american influences that have infiltrated all branches of government.
They don't both reside in looneyville.

I've been around both of them much longer than you have. They are both extremists.

I'm conservative and can be classified as Republican. But TRO is just as extreme to the right as Dan is to the left. Open your eyes and you'll see that.

[MannyIsGod]

Maybe in the land of Pirates and Carribean fortresses, I mean far-rightness.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CBF just made my signature!

[jochhejaam]

[QUOTE]

I've been around both of them much longer than you have. They are both extremists.

Given the number of post by both dan and tro, 3 months in this political forum is plenty long enough for me to come up with an accurate assessment of their extremism. I respect your personal opinion and I have one of my own.

I'm conservative and can be classified as Republican. But TRO is just as extreme to the right as Dan is to the left. Open your eyes and you'll see that

Definition of Extremism;
Telling someone to open their eyes because they disagree with your opinion.

I would say to some extent most of us have views that would correctly be defined as extreme...?

[jochhejaam]

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CBF just made my signature!

Siamese twins, joined at the brain via signature.

[Kori Ellis]

Definition of Extremism;
Telling someone to open their eyes because they disagree with your opinion.

Where do you get your dictionary?

[jochhejaam]

Originally posted by Kori Ellis: I'm conservative and can be classified as Republican. But TRO is just as extreme to the right as Dan is to the left. Open your eyes and you'll see that.

My eyes are every bit as open as yours. Strong, correct points are made without adding an insult. Those are often thrown into discussion in lieu of substantive arguement. You went to the extreme to accentuate your point (insult or sarcasm).
Not that I mind, I was just pointing it out since you were talking about others extremism. (the quality or state of being extreme)

Where do you get your dictionary?

I probably should have put an "example of extremism".
Online Merriam Webster - Extreme: going to great or exaggerated lengths, exceeding the ordinary, usual, or expected


Counterpoint or let's leave it at that?

[Yonivore]

I've been around both of them much longer than you have. They are both extremists.

I'm conservative and can be classified as Republican. But TRO is just as extreme to the right as Dan is to the left. Open your eyes and you'll see that.

If you cut me, do I not bleed?

Oh, and how 'bout changing my tag line from "Landslide Victory!" to "The Resurrected One." Thanks, your Highness!

[Kori Ellis]

If you cut me, do I not bleed?

Oh, and how 'bout changing my tag line from "Landslide Victory!" to "The Resurrected One." Thanks, your Highness!

Haha! Why did you decide to go back to the old moniker?

Let me see if I can change it right now.

[Kori Ellis]

My eyes are every bit as open as yours. Strong, correct points are made without adding an insult. Those are often thrown into discussion in lieu of substantive arguement. You went to the extreme to accentuate your point (insult or sarcasm).
Not that I mind, I was just pointing it out since you were talking about others extremism. (the quality or state of being extreme)




I probably should have put an "example of extremism".
Online Merriam Webster - Extreme: going to great or exaggerated lengths, exceeding the ordinary, usual, or expected


Counterpoint or let's leave it at that?

Where did I use insult or sarcasm?
Your eyes aren't open to the whole picture, or else it would be easy to see that TRO/Yonivore's viewpoints are extreme. That's reality, not sarcasm.

If that was an insult, then you are too thin-skinned to be here.

[Kori Ellis]

Oh, and how 'bout changing my tag line from "Landslide Victory!" to "The Resurrected One." Thanks, your Highness!

Changed successfully.

[Yonivore]

Changed successfully.

Thank you! I bow to your supremecy O' great one!

(seriously though, thanks )

[jochhejaam]

Where did I use insult or sarcasm?
Your eyes aren't open to the whole picture, or else it would be easy to see that TRO/Yonivore's viewpoints are extreme. That's reality, not sarcasm.

If that was an insult, then you are too thin-skinned to be here.

I'm thin skinned because you threw an insult my way? I don't think so.

I'll state for the third and last time (maybe the second, but still the last ) it was brought out because it was an example of being extreme, not because I felt insulted.
At least a couple of posters have thrown FU's my way and it doesn't bother me in the least.
I think part of the problem is that you're extremely sensitive to opposition. Maybe you're too thin-skinned to be......oh wait, you're the board owner .

And could you replace "lottery pick" under my username with "oblivious to insults". thanks

[Yonivore]

...oh wait, you're the board owner .

Yeah, and you could disappear...

[jochhejaam]

Yeah, and you could disappear...

Poof, just like magic

[mookie2001]

seen it happen
some of my past threads are like A&E's Cold Case Files

[cecil collins]

My eyes are every bit as open as yours. Strong, correct points are made without adding an insult. Those are often thrown into discussion in lieu of substantive arguement. You went to the extreme to accentuate your point (insult or sarcasm).
Not that I mind, I was just pointing it out since you were talking about others extremism. (the quality or state of being extreme)




I probably should have put an "example of extremism".
Online Merriam Webster - Extreme: going to great or exaggerated lengths, exceeding the ordinary, usual, or expected


Counterpoint or let's leave it at that?

You(JOCH) throw out insults all the time. Also, Joch is also an extremist to the right, therefore your argument. He says TRO is not extreme, becuase he does not view himself as extreme. Joch thinks that only the right can throw out insults.

[Kori Ellis]

I'm thin skinned because you threw an insult my way? I don't think so.

I'll state for the third and last time (maybe the second, but still the last ) it was brought out because it was an example of being extreme, not because I felt insulted.

By this post you thought it was both extreme and insulting.

My eyes are every bit as open as yours. Strong, correct points are made without adding an insult. Those are often thrown into discussion in lieu of substantive arguement. You went to the extreme to accentuate your point (insult or sarcasm).

At least a couple of posters have thrown FU's my way and it doesn't bother me in the least.
I think part of the problem is that you're extremely sensitive to opposition. Maybe you're too thin-skinned to be......oh wait, you're the board owner .

And could you replace "lottery pick" under my username with "oblivious to insults". thanks

Why don't you off?

There, that's an insult.

I have no problem with opposition. You are just an asshole or stupid.

Or perhaps both.

All that I said in the beginning was "open your eyes". If you consider that "extreme" or an "insult", then you are an idiot.

There, now you have been insulted. And you can continue your accusations.

You are one of the worst posters I've ever seen.

[Yonivore]

You are one of the worst posters I've ever seen.

Okay, now we all want a Kori rating!

[jochhejaam]

By this post you thought it was both extreme and insulting.







Why don't you off?

There, that's an insult.

I have no problem with opposition. You are just an asshole or stupid.

Or perhaps both.

All that I said in the beginning was "open your eyes". If you consider that "extreme" or an "insult", then you are an idiot.

There, now you have been insulted. And you can continue your accusations.

You are one of the worst posters I've ever seen.

How totally conservative.

I don't feel insulted by the tirades of others or because others lack self control. It's a reflection on the insulter.

[jochhejaam]

You(JOCH) throw out insults all the time. Also, Joch is also an extremist to the right, therefore your argument. He says TRO is not extreme, becuase he does not view himself as extreme. Joch thinks that only the right can throw out insults.

Another poster that missed the point. It wasn't about insults it was about being extreme.
And I'm not at all bothered by being called extreme.

[Kori Ellis]

I don't feel insulted by the tirades of others or because others lack self control. It's a reflection on the insulter.

You don't seem to get it. It wasn't a tirade. It was a contrived post to justify your accusations.

[RandomGuy]

Fallacy: Personal Attack

Also Known as: Ad Hominem Abusive.
Description of Personal Attack

A personal attack is committed when a person subs utes abusive remarks for evidence when attacking another person's claim or claims. This line of "reasoning" is fallacious because the attack is directed at the person making the claim and not the claim itself. The truth value of a claim is independent of the person making the claim. After all, no matter how repugnant an individual might be, he or she can still make true claims.

Not all ad Hominems are fallacious. In some cases, an individual's characteristics can have a bearing on the question of the veracity of her claims. For example, if someone is shown to be a pathological liar, then what he says can be considered to be unreliable. However, such attacks are weak, since even pathological liars might speak the truth on occasion.

In general, it is best to focus one's attention on the content of the claim and not on who made the claim. It is the content that determines the truth of the claim and not the characteristics of the person making the claim.
Examples of Personal Attack

1. In a school debate, Bill claims that the President's economic plan is unrealistic. His opponent, a professor, retorts by saying "the freshman has his facts wrong."

2. "This theory about a potential cure for cancer has been introduced by a doctor who is a known lesbian feminist. I don't see why we should extend an invitation for her to speak at the World Conference on Cancer."

3. "Bill says that we should give tax breaks to companies. But he is untrustworthy, so it must be wrong to do that."

4. "That claim cannot be true. Dave believes it, and we know how morally repulsive he is."

5. "Bill claims that Jane would be a good treasurer. However I find Bill's behavior offensive, so I'm not going to vote for Jill."

6. "Jane says that drug use is morally wrong, but she is just a goody-two shoes Christian, so we don't have to listen to her."

7. Bill: "I don't think it is a good idea to cut social programs."
Jill: "Why not?"
Bill: "Well, many people do not get a fair start in life and hence need some help. After all, some people have wealthy parents and have it fairly easy. Others are born into poverty and..."
Jill: "You just say that stuff because you have a soft heart and an equally soft head."

When one does not have logic or the facts on one's side, one has no choice but to use faulty logic, personal attacks, and ad hominem.

[cecil collins]

Another poster that missed the point. It wasn't about insults it was about being extreme.
And I'm not at all bothered by being called extreme.

Okay, do you concede that you are an extremist? If so, why do you argue that TRO is not an extremist? I like how I have an opinion, but it's just that I "missed the point." Everyone, including you uses insults from time to time, only you are a baby about it.

[Victor Newman]

How can you all make fun of NBAdan when he does nothing but hard work 24/7 keeping this forum alive speaking the truth?